Posted on 07/06/2013 12:02:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
Currently just Tweets and locals talking about this, nothing on news sites yet. Lots of stuff in the Twitter feed, including links to uploaded videos of the smoking mess.
I have been in 43 of the 50 states and 11 foreign countries. I flew a lot in my military days, ending in 1992 at retirement. But, that was a much different time and I did not have to put up with the garbage of today. But, even now, when I take my wife to her family reunions, we drive from Alabama to Wisconsin, 925 miles one way. So, I don’t care, no flying. She has flown back to Seattle to visit family a couple of times and to Las Vegas to visit family, but she has gone alone. I ain’t flying!!!
Annoying Facebook CEO supposed to be on plane:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/facebook-sheryl-sandberg-sfo-flight-93770.html
Probably before you were born, but in 1968 (I think) a JAL DC-8 trying to make a night landing at SFO came in WAY short, wound up partly submerged with the tail sticking out of the water. I don’t think anyone was injured in that one either, but it must have been embarrassing when the wreck sat out there in full view for weeks.
RT [Russia Today] News had a good shot of the rip-rap [sea wall]. Large rocks and boulders scattered over a 50-yard area. Indicative of a strike.
If plane came in too low and the tail clipped the rip-rap [breaking off], it could have pitched the nose of the fuselage downward - starting the flips and cartwheels that have been reported.
FYI: iPhone pic of passengers disembarking the plane after the crash shows no fire in cabin immediately after impact. Pic shows people running away with their carry-ons ...
KTVU: 10 victims - 8 adults, 2 children, being treated at SF General, all are critical
CNN has had reports from passengers and eyes on the ground.
All are saying it was coming in short, tried to power up, but couldn’t.
Might explain the wobble.
But it appears we are still short an engine.
Switched airlines and came in before crash happened... She’s letting us all know she’s fine.
You are free to speculate all you want, just as I am. If i knew what caused this incident, I would cry out immediately....but....I don’t. Just laying back a bit until the real facts surface....not speculation. You will see as time passes, the media is going to make fools of themselves....as they have done so many times before. IMHO...the truth, whatever it may be will, will be revealed by fact.
But to be a pilot on the queen of any airline’s long-haul fleet, and to do that on a perfectly clear day on a visual approach...wow. Even with the ILS out of service on both 28s that’s a colossal mistake. It should be interesting to see what comes out of the investigation.
There are echoes of the BA 038 Heathrow crash in this but so far nobody’s talking about issues with the engine power on final are they?
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You assumed right, SB. Steve86 just explained that it did a “horizontal groundloop”, meaning it spun horizontally on the ground. That certainly sounds less stressful to those onboard than having it cartwheel!
Come on...No fun in that. I enjoy seeing people doing the big chicken and going hysterical.
when in trouble, when in doubt,
run in circles, scream and shout!
Look at that pic...
On the right side is that where the right engine bounced and skipped in the dirt?
I doubt it cartwheeled in the sense we’d think of it. More than likely the plane came down very hard and either collapsed the right main gear or banked over to the right; for whatever reason it dug in and dragged the right wingtip (that’s the one that is supposedly missing ~7 feet correct?), which skidded the plane around and slid it sideways off the runway, collapsing the landing gear, which isn’t designed to handle the side load of 200 tons of airplane sliding at 100+ knots. It would keep sliding and shear off the engines at that point, and slide to a stop, with a fire probably coming from hot engine parts in contact with spilled fuel through the damaged belly, or electrical sparking, or any number of other things.
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could be! if the plane did a ground loop, what appears to be the starboard engine at the plane could actually be the missing port engine.
My first impression..
Wow...The photo was removed by the moderator...
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