Posted on 07/06/2013 12:02:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
Currently just Tweets and locals talking about this, nothing on news sites yet. Lots of stuff in the Twitter feed, including links to uploaded videos of the smoking mess.
At least two fatalities. Many injured.
Full Auto land would have auto throttles engaged, autobrakes set and the pilot only has to bring the engines into reverse thrust. After rollout, the typical error is to forget to disconnect the autopilot which will not allow you to turn off the centerline of the runway! Been there, done that.
Also autoland requires specific, approved ILS operating besides the ground clearance mentioned.
I suppose it could have rolled off the jetty during that violent horizontal groundloop maneuver the aircraft did.
Oh, someone here was in error. I’m so sorry to hear of it. Prayers for all involved. Thank you for letting me know.
I’m thinking those parts are destined to be Coke cans.
The ILS for both RWY 28L and 28R have been inoperative for several days. It is likely the pilot was not aware.
!SFO 06/005 SFO NAV ILS RWY 28L GP OTS WEF 1306011400-1308222359
!SFO 06/004 SFO NAV ILS RWY 28R GP OTS WEF 1306011400-1308222359
Bomb, pilot sudden health issues....
He may have known he was short and had started a go-round: nose up, full power.
I found this interesting. This is a different airline, Korea’s other airline, but it is also a Boeing 777. This just happened a few days ago:
B777 engine failure sparks concerns
By Nam Hyun-woo
The emergency landing of a Korea Air jet has called the safety of the B777-300ER passenger aircraft into question. Passengers are becoming concerned about the recurring safety problems of the aircraft.
Korea’s transportation authorities said that an engine problem caused the incident.
On July 2, the jet, bound for Incheon International Airport from Chicago with 273 passengers on board, made the emergency landing at a far eastern Russian airport after only seven hours of flight.
All passengers and crew members disembarked safely and the plane returned to its original destination on July 3 at 6:40 a.m. (KST), 14 hours later than the estimated time of arrival, with another aircraft sent by the carrier three hours after the jet touched down.
The captain of the plane reported to the authorities of Anadyr Airport (Ugolny Airport) in Siberia, Chukotka, that the oil pressure of the left engine suddenly plunged, compelling it to make the emergency landing at around 2 p.m. (KST), according to Korean Air.
After engineers of Korean Air replaced the malfunctioned left engine, Korea’s Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport and the carrier launched an investigation into the incident and found the gearbox in the engine, built by General Electric (GE), was the reason for the problem.
Read More:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/07/116_138693.html
They interviewed the daughter of someone who was on board the plane and according to him, he felt the impact coming, the plane was just about to touch the runway but it went down too low so the pilot was trying to pick up the plane when the tail hit the runway
That’s what I’m guessing. There’s a fairly large piece right by the rock jetty, in the water, pre-runway. Big gap on the port side wing front, where it used to be.
It is more difficult for some aircraft to turn around in a tight area than for others, so using a tug to extricate it from the taxiway would not be unusual. The photos I saw seem to show them well clear laterally of Asiana's path. I suppose engines could have tossed something their way, but it does seem unusual for emergency personnel to be performing what should be a perfunctory examination rather than maintenance technicians.
I like my gravitational worm hole theory.
That agrees with #408.
Cripplecreek, I made a lighthearted post in reply to your photo. I’d just come online and read in another post that everyone was okay. That was great news, and then I saw your funny picture. and responded to it. Now I hear there have been some fatalities and many are injured. :-(
You would think that ATC would not bring them in to that runway if the ILS was not working. Of course, they may have gone for a visual approach and landing...
That is interesting.
If I were you folks, I would wait for Boeings and the Asiana flight crew and flight attendents to be debriefed on description of the incident. That fire in the cabin is suspect....although the center fuel tank could have ruptured on the hard landing. What bothers me is the blowout of the aft pressure bulkhead in rearward fashion. Strange!!! Conclusions are a long way off!!! Passengers also, will have valuable verbal input as to what occurred in the interior cabin and aircraft exterior. Time to remain calm & research. The truth will surface as it always does in most instances.
Oh, my goodness! I also just read that it cartwheeled; is that correct information? It’s a wonder anyone made it out. Prayers, and thank you, Sarah Barracuda.
The pic at post 220 would support that.
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