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Police Say Speeding Tickets Are All About Discretion
KCRG ^ | Jul 3, 2013 | Forrest Saunders

Posted on 07/05/2013 8:08:51 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Tuesday, dash cam video surfaced of an Iowa State Trooper pursuing a speeding black Chevy SUV on Highway 20 between Cedar Falls and Fort Dodge, back in April. In an audio recording, you can hear DCI Special Agent Larry Hedlund call a state dispatcher for help in pulling over the SUV that he was going a "hard 90."

State Patrol started a pursuit, but backed off when they learned the SUV was being driven by a fellow officer and Governor Terry Branstad was a passenger.

Five days later the DCI put Hedlund on administrative leave after he complained to his superiors that Branstad's driver got a free pass.

Wednesday, Branstad said that decision was not related to the speeding incident. But Hedlund's attorney insists it was retaliation.

Governor Branstand and Lieutenant Governor Kim Reynolds said they weren't aware of the event until Tuesday. The Governor told press Wednesday his security personal are not above the law.

"I believe that everybody ought to be treated equally and fairly under the law,” he said.

Police in Marion said issuing speeding tickets is not black and white, more of a gray zone. They said their department only pulls people over when drivers reach a certain speed over the limit. Then, writing a ticket is up to the officer.

"Maybe they're going over the speed limit because she's delivering a baby in the back seat. I mean, they still have a lot of discretion on giving a speeding ticket out," said Chief Harry Daugherty.

However, Chief Daugherty said it's policy that none of his officers exceed the speed limit unless they're headed to an emergency. He said if one officer spots another breaking that rule, the offender is reported.

"If they see something like that then they are required to let their supervisor know what they saw," said Daugherty. "There would be an internal investigation.”

The state Department of Public Safety is reviewing the speeding incident. The governor said he believes the department will determine the best way to handle the situation.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: branstad; codeofsilence; discretion; donutwatch; doublestandard; greyarea; greylaw; greyzone; iowa; policestate; revenuetickets; speeding; speedingtickets; statepolice; tickets
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

No, it was Dick Nixon who gave the nation the ‘double nickle’.


21 posted on 07/05/2013 8:41:12 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Mastador1
But how else are they going to pay for these gleaming, hulking Chevy SUVs with the snazzy paint jobs that barely get double digit gas mileage? Those Crown Vics just don't have room for the laptops and riot guns.

State Police Chief Smith sez you've got to speculate to accumulate!

22 posted on 07/05/2013 8:42:59 PM PDT by relictele (A community vigilant in enforcing economic, racial and social equality. It was called Jonestown.)
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To: nickcarraway

In California and at least several other states vehicles driven
by and for legislators and, I assume, governors have plates
which identify them to be mucky-mucks. Of course a cop
in pursuit needs to get close enough to identify the special
plates and maybe Iowa is not among those states with dis-
tinguishable plates. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not in favor
of speeding governors unless it is Governor Brown and he
was heading west on a pier in Santa Barbara.


23 posted on 07/05/2013 8:43:14 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Paladin2

Gov. Branstad is a Republican, in office 1983-1999 and 2011-present. There is nothing to indicate that he had anything to do with the trooper speeding. It is common knowledge that cops rarely ticket other cops.


24 posted on 07/05/2013 8:47:09 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: relictele

Crown Vic’s are on the out, not made any more. Here in Taxifornia the favorites seem to be Dodge’s with big Hemi’s.


25 posted on 07/05/2013 8:49:15 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: iowamark
Well, I was doing some site surveys in IA a few years back and found that those folks in the Eastern (geographical) half to be somewhat unfriendly and 'rat like.

The folks in the Western half were true Americans.

26 posted on 07/05/2013 8:53:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: iowamark

I just figured that the Eastern half of IA rules the roost and makes the place a near ‘rat nirvana.


27 posted on 07/05/2013 8:55:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: PAR35
"Nixon who gave the nation the ‘double nickle’."

Truly the inflection point for law breaking as the rule.

28 posted on 07/05/2013 8:57:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: relictele

Cops have always had tremendous discretion in what and how laws they enforce. this is not new news.

Things that affect if they pull you over:

If you look like you are screwing around while driving

If you have crap sticking out (feet, boards, etc) of your crummy looking car

If you are driving an extremely expensive car and look like you shouldn’t be the driver

If they are trying to fill an end of month ticket quota

If they have been told to generate more revenue from tickets

If it’s a slow day

If you are speeding over 10 mph posted limit

If you’re driving with lights off in rain or snow or night

If you hit the brakes while speeding after you pass them

If they can hear your music blaring before they see your car


29 posted on 07/05/2013 9:02:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Forgot, if you shout “I thought I smelled bacon!” when you pass by them


30 posted on 07/05/2013 9:03:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway
Obviously its BS.
Howard County (Maryland) Police Speed Trap Watch
31 posted on 07/05/2013 9:15:35 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: nickcarraway


32 posted on 07/05/2013 9:23:48 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: nickcarraway

Our idiot ex govenor Corslime almost killed himself doing the same thing

His driver was doing 90 on Garden State Parkway and texting
when hit guard rail

Corslime not wearing seat belt was ejected from vehicle and seriously injured......


33 posted on 07/05/2013 9:31:51 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: Mastador1

NJ road nazi er State troopers use unmarked Camaro and Chargers with tinted windows - illegal in NJ

Seen ‘em on shoulders after pulled some poor slob over.....


34 posted on 07/05/2013 9:34:47 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: nickcarraway
The governor said he believes the department will determine the best way to handle the situation.

Or not...

35 posted on 07/05/2013 9:35:21 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Mastador1
Daughter of LAPD Sgt. Arrested For Fatal Hit-&-Run
36 posted on 07/05/2013 9:56:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
"Iowa State Trooper pursuing a speeding black Chevy SUV"

Today - Constable On Patrol (COP) = Mobile revenue generating unit.

Gone are the days of "To Serve and Protect".

Yes, I realize this rant is slightly off topic...

37 posted on 07/05/2013 11:36:30 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: DesertRhino
Corzine’s SUV traveling 91 mph at time of crash
38 posted on 07/05/2013 11:41:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Mastador1

“So the Gov is in a SUV doing 90mph and he had no clue?”

A friend took my Jetta Sportwagen TDI for a drive. He announced, “wow, that’s 80 and I really can’t tell.” Neither could I and I was beside him. Most modern cars are whisper quiet at high speed. My Marauder is the same.


39 posted on 07/06/2013 3:50:50 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: nickcarraway

Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!

http://youtu.be/QR465HoCWFQ


40 posted on 07/06/2013 4:22:15 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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