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The Zimmerman trial is already over
Fox News ^ | July 5, 2013 | John Lott

Posted on 07/05/2013 8:05:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Prosecutors in the George Zimmerman second degree murder trial have pushed hard on two points as they seek to make their case against him: that the injuries to Zimmerman on the night Trayvon Martin died were “insignificant” and that he had studied Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law in a college class in 2010.

To win conviction on second-degree murder, the prosecution has to show that the death was caused by a criminal act “demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life.”

That’s why the prosecutor keeps pushing the claim that Zimmerman profiled Martin because he was black. Meanwhile, the lesser charge of manslaughter generally is a crime that's been committed in the heat of passion, where there is no premeditation. The jury would have to believe Zimmerman lost his temper in shooting Martin.

People can use force to protect themselves when they reasonably believe it is “necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to themselves.” On this score, the testimony of the Jacksonville medical examiner, Valerie Rao, that Zimmerman injuries were “insignificant” is largely irrelevant.

A broken nose, a head being slammed into cement, and punches to the face may not have left Zimmerman incapacitated. The important question is whether such an attack with a man on top of him would leave Zimmerman to “reasonably believe” that there was a threat of “imminent death or great bodily harm to himself.”

Much was also made of the class Zimmerman took class at Seminole State College taught by Professor Alexis Carter. The key supposedly was that Zimmerman really did understand Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law. Prosecutor Richard Mantei told the court that Zimmerman's legal studies would help jurors understand his "state of mind" and "ambitions and frustrations" before the shooting.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; trayvonstroops; zimmerman
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To: AlanGreenSpam

MLK?


61 posted on 07/05/2013 11:20:14 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: cynwoody

Not exactly correct, Barry! 39 truths about “Obama”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2942131/posts

Barack Obama: The first Arab-American president
http://derekpgilbert.com/?p=2688

Obama’s Kenyan ancestors sold slaves
http://aconservativelesbian.com/2009/07/13/obamas-kenyan-ancestors-sold-slaves/


62 posted on 07/05/2013 11:24:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: Paladin2
Bammy’s “Dad” looked to be 100%. Bammy is likely 50%. Zim less.

GZ is half-Peruvian.

You may recall Peru is where the Incas lived. They were 100% Injun until a white conquistador dude by the name of Francisco Pizarro González (1471 or 1476 to 1541) arrived and took the place over. European stock followed and inter-bred with the Injuns, er, Native Americans.

According to CIA, today's Peru sorts out as "Amerindian [yeah, right – forget my wacist "Injun" word] 45%, mestizo (mixed Amerindian and white) 37%, white 15%, black, Japanese, Chinese, and other 3%".

My guess would be that GZ's mother falls in the second group. This means that GZ is basically a white dude.

If I'd sat next to him on an airplane, I would have pegged him as white. Only if the flight were long, and we'd talked a lot, and he'd mentioned his mother's heritage, would I have had any higher-resolution picture.

63 posted on 07/05/2013 11:29:58 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
If one speaks Spanish that makes one Hispanic in the US as far as I can tell.

Apparently Language = Race according to the 'rats in the US.

The Black fraction of heritage is intereseting, especially wrt H0lder's comments.

Apparently in the US, 'rats consider quatroons and "less" to be Blacks.

What's up wid dat?

64 posted on 07/05/2013 11:34:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: cynwoody
Not to consider the whole Native American spanish speaking population.

US libs are totally ignorant wrt race, not that it really matters.

65 posted on 07/05/2013 11:36:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He couldn't possibly have been an Arab, simply based on his appearance. Anyone who says he was is obviously trying to deceive.

Of course, he was a Mooselimb. The religion had a following in East Africa. Back then, they made a business of selling lesser Africans to European slave traders. These days, they hack off Franciscan heads with kitchen knives. Same bunch, different dates.

Islam's a religion, not an ethnicity. There are blond, blue-eyed Mooselimbs. Islam is a malignant idea, not a gene.

More than likely, what Zero's daddy actually was: a non-observant Muslim and a died-in-the-wool Communist! As is little Barry Bastard (the marriage being invalid, due to bigamy).

66 posted on 07/05/2013 11:47:57 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So what?


67 posted on 07/05/2013 11:48:08 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

I didn’t say it was a big deal, I was answering someone who was calling me crazy for saying it. Some people might find it important, or see that bowing to the Saudi king makes more sense in light of this. That’s what.


68 posted on 07/05/2013 11:53:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: cynwoody

Mr. George Zimmerman is at least 1/4 black, but you can’t really tell based on his looks. Remember what happens when we assume.


69 posted on 07/05/2013 11:54:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mr. George Zimmerman is at least 1/4 black, but you can’t really tell based on his looks.

Interesting hypothesis. If he's 25% black, how much is via his Peruvian mother vs his American father?

Remember what happens when we assume.

Well, you could ask the question about yourself, but the answer wouldn't matter.

70 posted on 07/06/2013 12:10:03 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Uncle Chip

All that is left is hope, My FRiend. Truth and justice left long ago.


71 posted on 07/06/2013 4:04:12 AM PDT by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What's astonishing is reading the March story from Rich Lowry that is linked by Lott. Lowry simply repeats all of the legacy media spin that has since been proven inaccurate by subsequent events. Lowry echoes the Dee Dee call inventions, the CNN racist slur inventions, the "loosing fistfight" inventions, and more.

No wonder National Review has swirled down the toilet of media hype. Lowry must get his "news" only from the DC/NY cocoon.

72 posted on 07/06/2013 4:35:49 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Tupelo; GrandJediMasterYoda
I agree, this is a "Show Trial" with a predetermined outcome. . . . Then after the dust settles, the Federals will come up with something to try him again. Double Jeopardy? of course, but getting the proper results is more important to them than the Constitution.

You are absolutely correct, and I've posted as much elsewhere. The Feds have already established that precedent with the Rodney King beating trial.

The situation reminds me of a statement I read once by a fascist political theorist. "What is just is what an Aryan (liberal) man says is just". In other words - it's what liberals feel that matters, not the law or true justice.

73 posted on 07/06/2013 5:11:08 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: AlanGreenSpam

Not MLK...JFK


74 posted on 07/06/2013 5:14:25 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: montanajoe

Nope. In FL, manslaughter requires “depraved mind” just like M2, and that’s been disproven. The difference is accidental vs intentional.


75 posted on 07/06/2013 5:33:05 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: McBuff
I think Traydmark™ attacked GZ either because he was ticked off he couldn't rob a house with GZ watching or he was robbing GZ! I use to live in New York city, I grew up there and lived all through the crime ridden '70s and crack epidemic 80s and quite a few times walking at night I would have people following me. Did I ever hide and beat them up? No! I ran! But Traydmark™ didn't. Like you said, he had every opportunity to go home but he didn't. So this tells me Traydmark™ knew GZ was a community watch and he was ticked off he couldn't rob a house with GZ watching or he was robbing GZ.
76 posted on 07/06/2013 5:46:48 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Travis McGee

I wondered why he made such a point of this.....your post makes it obvious.


77 posted on 07/06/2013 6:03:53 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The Zimmerman trial is already over”

Make it so


78 posted on 07/06/2013 6:04:53 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Even if acquitted, where does George Zimmerman go to get his good name....and life...back?

They have assaulted his character, his reputation, his integrity.....put his family in fear for their lives.....and he's a young man.

Where does he go to live the rest of his life if acquitted?

And what about George's uncle.....by all accounts, including a local attorney making commentary on the trial who knows this uncle for years, is an upstanding man......where does he go to regain his respect for a country that could do this to his nephew?----a country he served in the military for 26 years.

What is right is wrong, what is wrong is right.....the Bible said it would be as such in the last days.

79 posted on 07/06/2013 6:14:58 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would like to see that prosecutor have his nose broken, his head slammed against concrete and multiple punches to the face by someone sitting on him and see if he considers it “insignificant”.


80 posted on 07/06/2013 6:16:46 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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