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Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.1 The Ikwhan Strikes Back: Deadly "Day of Rejection"
Various | Friday, July 5, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/05/2013 2:20:03 PM PDT by kristinn

USA Today reports from Cairo at least 10 killed, hundreds wounded in Egypt today on the Muslim Brotherhood's (Ikwhan) "Day of Rejection" of the Egyptian military's removal of President Morsi from office this week after a popular uprising.


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Meanwhile, the U.S. State Department admitted Secretary of State John Kerry was indeed on his yacht in Nantucket on Wednesday as the revolution in Egypt succeeded:

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(Live Thread) Egypt: American Killed During Violent Clashes (Egypt about to blow up)

Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.0


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabspring; badie; badiethatsallfolks; comingforthbynight; egypt; egyptcoup; egyptlive; israel; johnkerry; kerry; leadingfrombehind; liveegypt; liveegyptthread; mohamedbadie; mohammedbadie; muslimbrotherhood; russia; secretaryofstate; terrorism; threatmatrix; truthaboutegypt; waronterror
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To: maggief; penelopesire
From the article:

“A former Mossad officer told FOCUS the analysis has clearly shown that the bombardment with poison gas missiles was made by Syrian government forces,” reports the publication.

An unnamed former Mossad official.

Israel is the only country with proof that Assad launched the chem attack.

Assad had absolutely nothing to gain by launching a chem attack. Not only nothing to gain, but everything to lose---suicidal, in fact.

5,101 posted on 08/26/2013 8:36:41 AM PDT by thouworm (A lawless oligarchy has replaced our Constitution-based govt. Their motto: Catch us if you can.)
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To: thouworm; maggief

I don’t believe that for a moment..especially knowing the true reaches of the NSA now. Of course, given that Obama and the corruptocrats in charge now have most listening ears pointed inward..they could have missed it.

It makes no sense for Assad to use these weapons..unless it was done by elements in his own force that have switched sides to the Islamists. That is a possibility too.


5,102 posted on 08/26/2013 8:50:29 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire; thouworm

“which goes back to our original thesis, and proves that, as so often happens in the middle east, it is once again all about the natural resources.”

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/10/the-wars-in-the-middle-east-and-north-africa-are-not-just-about-oil-theyre-also-about-gas.html

A Primer On the REAL Global Geopolitical Battle
Posted on October 8, 2012

http://rt.com/news/libya-all-about-oil-818/

Libya: So it was all about oil after all!

Published time: April 11, 2012


5,103 posted on 08/26/2013 9:14:23 AM PDT by maggief
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To: penelopesire; caww; maggief

Israel has avoided making any direct statements assigning blame (Peres statement notwithstanding-—and a bit tepid).

Why would Israel, through a “former Mossad official” now take full responsibility as the country who proved it was Assad. BUT today...
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It is “crystal clear” that Syrian President Bashar Assad used chemical weapons five days ago in an attack that killed hundreds of people, International Relations Minister [Likud] Yuval Steintz said Monday.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Steinitz-It-is-crystal-clear-Assad-used-chemical-weapons-on-mass-scale-324269
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To you other point -— “unless it was done by elements in his own force that have switched sides to the Islamists. That is a possibility too. “

Caww found this article of “firsthand” reports-— also confusing since it purports evidence of TWO accounts. But...it could lend credence to your suggestion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3039526/posts?page=5076#5076

I’m starting to get the feeling like the fix is in-—a sinister fix


5,104 posted on 08/26/2013 9:17:03 AM PDT by thouworm (A lawless oligarchy has replaced our Constitution-based govt. Their motto: Catch us if you can.)
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To: maggief; thouworm

That first link is excellent.
We all realize that oil is an all important commodity for our country, so truly it is of strategic national interest. My problem right now is all the subterfuge surrounding it by corrupt politicians who are enriching themselves along the way.

We need to be drilling here and untangling ourselves from the whole rotten MIddle East IMHO.


5,105 posted on 08/26/2013 9:31:48 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire; hoosiermama; crosslink; thouworm; MestaMachine; caww; melancholy

S about to HTF...

UK’s Deputy PM Nick Clegg cancels planned trip to Afghanistan to attend national security council meeting on Syria - @SkyNewsBreak

Syrian opposition figure says Geneva peace talks off the table for now after alleged poison gas attack - @Reuters

Downing Street says decision on whether to recall UK Parliament regarding situation in Syria will be taken tomorrow - @SkyNewsBreak

#News David Cameron told MPs must vote before launching strikes on Syria: Syria crisis: Davi... http://bit.ly/177zB97 #Breaking #Latest

AFP:

Cameron cuts holiday short to tackle Syria


5,106 posted on 08/26/2013 9:36:52 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

US Secretary of State John Kerry to make a statement on the situation in Syria at 2 pm ET - @nbcnightlynews


5,107 posted on 08/26/2013 9:38:23 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

#Breaking Russian President Putin and British PM Cameron held phone talks over Syria


5,108 posted on 08/26/2013 9:43:33 AM PDT by maggief
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To: penelopesire; thouworm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/are-syria-and-pakistan-pieces-of-the-puzzle-for-assembling-a-mega-gas-pipeline-to-china/5331299

Are Syria and Pakistan Pieces of the Puzzle for Assembling a Mega Gas Pipeline to China?

April 14, 2013

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/08/cia-files-us-aided-iraq-with-iran-gas-attacks.html

Today at 2:09 AM

CIA Files Show U.S. Played Role in Iraq’s Chemical Attacks on Iran

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3026155/posts

Iraq uncovers al-Qaeda ‘chemical weapons plot’
BBC ^

Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2013

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3057777/posts

Syria Attack Compared To Chemical Use in Iraq
Voice of America ^ | August 22, 2013


5,109 posted on 08/26/2013 9:53:58 AM PDT by maggief
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To: penelopesire; maggief

“We need to be drilling here and untangling ourselves from the whole rotten MIddle East IMHO.”

If every Obama scandal and unconstitutional/illegal act his adm committed is swallowed up in the black hole of memory, I believe Obama will be reviled in American history for this one thing alone:

Obama’s narcissistic obsession with his own self interest and his anti-American ideology compelled him to reject available technology to open up the energy spigots to guarantee US energy independence at a time when our national security and economy clearly demanded it-—especially considering that he had premeditatedly determined to turn the ME into an islamofascist hellhole of chaos from day one of his election.


5,110 posted on 08/26/2013 10:33:16 AM PDT by thouworm (A lawless oligarchy has replaced our Constitution-based govt. Their motto: Catch us if you can.)
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To: maggief

More shielding for Obama by the democrat power elite and media, so they will parade Kerry out to provide cover. Also..The New Yorker dredging up crap about WMDS from Reagan Era...more shaping the meme. I am already seeing it echoed by lib moron sheep on Twitter and elsewhere.

The meme will be:.....’see..we democrats care about people enough to remove Assad.....Reagan and those nasty republicans hate people and stand by and even helped killed them all for oil......blahblahlah. Not sure how they are going to square that with Bush removing Saddam in part due to weapons, though but I am sure it will be a circus watching our corrupt press twisting themselves into pretzels trying to protect Obama and the democrats....lol


5,111 posted on 08/26/2013 10:39:40 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: hoosiermama

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3058961/posts

Now Egypt looks to ‘expose’ Obama
World Net Daily ^ | 8/26/2013 | Jerome R. Corsi

The evidence is mounting that the military government currently ruling Egypt has decided to embarrass the Obama administration as part of a strategy to suppress Muslim Brotherhood activity in Egypt.

Last week, WND reported that Tehani al-Gebali, the vice president of the Supreme Constitutional Court of Egypt, gave a speech and participated in an interview broadcast on Egyptian television that identified Malik Obama, the Kenyan half-brother of President Obama, as “a major architect” managing investments for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

In the speech, Gebali said she would like “open files” to expose nations like the United States that are resisting the current military-controlled government of Egypt by continuing to support “terrorist” groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood.

“The Egyptian people are astounded,” wrote Coptic Egyptian author Michael Armanious in an article titled “Egyptians Bewildered Over Support for the Muslim Brotherhood,” published by the Gatestone Institute International Policy Council. “They simply do not understand the Obama Administration’s efforts to bring the Muslim Brotherhood back to power.”

Armanious puzzled over why the Obama administration supported the Muslim Brotherhood when the result of the “Arab Spring” was to oust Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and elect Muslim Brotherhood-backed Mohamed Morsi as president June 30, 2012.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-geopolitics-of-gas-and-the-syrian-crisis-syrian-opposition-armed-to-thwart-construction-of-iran-iraq-syria-gas-pipeline/5337452

A Muslim Brotherhood regime in Jordan and in Syria, supported by Qatar, would abruptly change the entire geopolitical world gas market – decidedly in favor of Qatar and to the detriment of Russia, Syria, Iran and Iraq. It would also be a crushing blow to China. (5)


5,112 posted on 08/26/2013 10:41:39 AM PDT by maggief
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To: thouworm

Good post!

Imagine how many more problems securing oil for our national strategic interests will be when the Muslim Brotherhood and AQ are in charge of every well and pipeline throughout the Middle East.

I am sure that is someone’s grand strategy..unfortunately..that someone could be our own president.


5,113 posted on 08/26/2013 10:48:28 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: thouworm

He’s not going to do anything that would make energy plentiful and cheap. I’m certain that the Madelyn Durham trust he’s declaring income from on his taxes is being funded by the mineral rights of family owned wells or percentage of working well GR granpa wrote leases for during the depression. Sure doesn’t want his own interests to loose value


5,114 posted on 08/26/2013 10:49:56 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: maggief

Ok..so let’s say we are brought around begrudgingly to see this as a ultimate ‘grand strategy’ to marginalized Russia and China’s power. Who is to say that when Qatar and Muslim Brotherhood/AQ have all the control, that they will be our alley? They hate the west..particularly the US.

If this is the grand plan...it is a stupid one.


5,115 posted on 08/26/2013 10:56:45 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

Like the government, know we cannot trust our own media. It’s interesting watching MSM scrabble to protect the WH prior to an expected strike. And, most aren’t interested in the origin of the chemical weapons.

What is noteworthy in the New Yorker article is the reporting of the CIA supplying chemical weapons to Saddam. So Saddam DID have WMDs?

Which is it??


5,116 posted on 08/26/2013 10:59:55 AM PDT by maggief
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To: penelopesire

Arab Spring appears to have been all about control of natural resources. Orchestrated by the CIA?


5,117 posted on 08/26/2013 11:06:22 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Exactly! The liberal story line will then be ‘but Bill Clinton got rid of Saddam’s WMDS after that mean old cold hearted Reagan left office. LOL!!


5,118 posted on 08/26/2013 11:09:58 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: maggief

I don’t know if I buy that as sole reason yet, but I am sure it factors in someone’s strategy. Many of the pieces sure fit what is going on.


5,119 posted on 08/26/2013 11:12:44 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: MestaMachine

(Mesta...do you have ‘Syria’ on Matrix?)

Yes, ma’am.)......

OK Good....then please put me on your ping list now that Egypts quieted down....I want to know what’s going on with Syria, especially since this very much revolves around Putins decisions..... but will not be as envolved as with Egypt.

I recall long time ago we were talking about not taking our eyes off Russia as the Arab Spring first began....and here we are now with Putin and Obama over Syria.....surprising none of us who know Putin and Russia.....

So Sign me up again please Mesta...and thanks...

CW


5,120 posted on 08/26/2013 1:34:04 PM PDT by caww
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