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Day 19 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 5, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/05/2013 4:54:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 5th, is DAY #19 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

The State is expected to wrap up their case today – A great recap of the trial so far is available HERE: The key witness today expected to be Sybrina Fulton, mom.

Great Expectations? Remember, as y’all have noted during the 15+ months of research, there is so much corruption in the assembly of this case we could expect the State to avoid the traditional witnesses brought by normal prosecutions. We have not been disappointed in our predictions. The state has already won a pre-trial motion to bar the defense mentioning the absence of any witness from the State’s case.

So it comes as no surprise, not a single State investigator has been called, not a single FBI officer, only one local investigative detective, Chris Serino (who supported the defense), and now the profound possibility they won’t even present the Seminole County Medical Examiner. So has the State actually even proven that Trayvon is indeed, deceased? Without the M.E. the ballistics are essentially moot – where did the aforementioned bullet come from? They have not established it came from Trayvon’s body. Think about it.

Because of pre-trial ‘motions in limine’ to exclude the defense bringing it up, O’Mara cannot mention it. Would/Will the jurors notice a missing M.E. = Trayvon blood tox. etc?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bao; fulton; jahvarisfulton; notes; shiping; shipingbao; showtrial; sybrina; sybrinafulton; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: SeaHawkFan

They are going to hammer this tool


641 posted on 07/05/2013 8:12:40 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: viaveritasvita

Give the ME a little more time, maybe he’ll tell us who Trashcan saw beckoning him to the light.


642 posted on 07/05/2013 8:12:59 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

I concur.


643 posted on 07/05/2013 8:13:02 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Uncle Chip
Somebody help me out here as I missed something. I thought the autopsy was out from the pre trial motions. What happened? Is the tox screen in?
644 posted on 07/05/2013 8:13:03 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Recess to load up for bear.


645 posted on 07/05/2013 8:13:26 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: viaveritasvita

I bet the ME goes stupid under cross. “I not..... understand.........question”.

You......want soup......go with.....that.


646 posted on 07/05/2013 8:13:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: viaveritasvita

10 minute recess = Praise God.


647 posted on 07/05/2013 8:13:40 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: dragnet2
The ME has no clue how long Martin was alive after being shot....Total pure speculation...

But the Jury SHOULD already know. The Cop and EMT tried to find a pulse, found none, started CPR.

You don't give CPR to 'live' people.

However, the Defense can prove exactly when after the shooting the pulse was taken.

We don't know exactly how many seconds after Trayvon was shot that he died. No one knows exactly when. And I fail to see how it matter to the Prosecution's case.

648 posted on 07/05/2013 8:13:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Fact. Suicide, accident, disease were all ruled out. He was intentionally homicided.


649 posted on 07/05/2013 8:14:07 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

will be made to look like the idiot that he is HA


650 posted on 07/05/2013 8:14:12 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: dragnet2

ME falls down the steps and can’t come back to testify.


651 posted on 07/05/2013 8:14:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: viaveritasvita

Well, there is a thing called “shock”. You can be mortally wounded and not feel any pain whatsoever.


652 posted on 07/05/2013 8:14:37 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: jiggyboy

ROFLOLOLOL. No kidding, eh?!!


653 posted on 07/05/2013 8:14:59 AM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

No mention of the toxicology report yet. Just pure speculation on TM’s pain and suffering, how long he probably remained alive, and how he could have gotten those cuts on his hands two hours BEFORE he was shot. In other words, quite a load of manure the prosecution is expecting the jury to choke down.


654 posted on 07/05/2013 8:15:01 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Sacajaweau
There in a neural feedback loop that shuts down tramatic pain. Near Death Experience survivors report this. The mechanism is as follows: Evidence is presented that its pain-suppressing action is mediated in part by endogenous opiatelike compounds (endorphins). This pain suppression system is organized at three levels of the neuraxis: midbrain, medulla, and spinal cord. Activation of neurons in the midbrain periaqueductal gray matter (by electrical stimulation, opiates, and possibly psychological factors) excites neurons of the rostral medulla, some of which contain serotonin. The medullary neurons, in turn, project to and specifically inhibit the firing of trigeminal and spinal pain-transmission neurons.
655 posted on 07/05/2013 8:15:04 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Crap. I just posted my own “shock” post before I read this.

Great minds and all that. :-)


656 posted on 07/05/2013 8:15:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Tau Food

Well yes, but you are stating that it was premeditated, are you not?

Verses, a man defending himself from possible death at the hands of his attacker.


657 posted on 07/05/2013 8:15:30 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Tau Food

What’s your point TF, We all know it was homicide, were you led to believe something else?


658 posted on 07/05/2013 8:15:44 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: AppyPappy
Well, in the age of HIV/AIDS I will have to give it some thought, but I will probably do it anyway if I have to give breaths.

My Dad is a retired Firefighter. In the Boy Scouts as a kid, my Dad trained entire Scout Troop in CPR, as he was a Red Cross Instructor. In High School, a class mate suffered a motorcycle accident, hitting a telephone pole stump at a local park, during a race. I gave FULL CPR for over almost an hour with no help at all. I got him the hospital, he lived 3 days. Then I was in the Marine Boot Camp a week later, where they again “taught me” their version of CPR. Then I went to college and became a certified EMT, and did volunteer work for the Red Cross at sporting events.
Then I again gave full CPR at an automobile accident, and that guy also lived for 3 days.
In both cases there was massive facial bleeding.
In both cases, doctors and nurses told me that they would have let him die, if they had been on the scene.

I think I know what I am doing but thanks for your concern.

659 posted on 07/05/2013 8:15:44 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

According to one report because the blood samples were improperly drawn by the ME, the lab was not able to do a valid tox.


660 posted on 07/05/2013 8:16:02 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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