Posted on 07/02/2013 5:16:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 2nd, is DAY #17 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Today Detective Chris Serino will be back on the stand. [Yesterday ended] on the stand with Chris Serino, who was the lead investigator for the Sanford Police Department on the Trayyvon Martin shooting.
Defense counsel Mark O’Mara led cross-examination with his usual consummate skill, obtaining responses from this witness–remember, the State’s witness–that all but completely guts the State’s charge in this case.
Among the key revelations so far: Zimmerman was always completely cooperative, open, and straightforward with all the police investigators over many weeks of multiple interviews, both in person at the police station and phone. The sense given is that Zimmerman demonstrated endless patience. (continue reading summary)
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Where did you learn so much about slim-jims, FRiend? Hmmmm?
I didnt’t watch the full interrogation tape because it was difficult to hear
I heard enough to know it was a problem.
It is...
but I tell you what.. IF DEFENSE DOES NOT CALL SERINO TO TRY TO CONTROL THE DAMAGE OF THAT TAPE I WILL SAY I WAS WRONG
Will you admit I was right if he does..
Nah, I doubt it.
I was thinking Nicolae Ceaușescu'd
I have not been following the trial that closely, but if the prosecution called the author to the stand to repeat what Zimmerman told him, that is not barred by the hearsay rule because any party is allowed to introduce out-of-court statements made by the opposing party.
“You got me”...Heard it a hundred times when the kids were playing their video games. It comes with sound effects, too.
Yes but in all fairness Martin didn’t have on gloves and the slim jim found near by have his prints on it or they didn’t test it?
First thing this morning there was discussion about the defense not appearing for a deposition. Probably related to that. I heard the word "sanctions" mentioned.
btw, since I did not hear the entire questioning about the comic book why don’t you tell us..no one has that I have seen.
I don’t know that you were referring to my “wacko interpretation,” but in case you were:
That’s not what I implied at all. I don’t believe Serino really hurt the defense. I think he confirmed GZ’s story very well.
My point was that O’Mara could not allow any mischaracterization of GZ’s answers on the interrogation tape to stand unclarified for the jury. Otherwise, there could be potential damage during their deliberations.
If you weren’t referring to me, please disregard this post.
What about it? Was it wrong?
I wasn’t talking about you. lol
And then this morning, on CNN, there were four commentators discussing the case. One of them, a black man, chuckled and said, “Zimmerman even admitted, on the police tape, that it wasn’t him screaming!”
All of you and I know that’s a lie!
We listened to the tape yesterday, and George Zimmerman really said, “That doesn’t even sound like me.”
Have any of us said that?
I have, when I hear my own voice sometimes. When looking at certain photos, I’ve also said, “That doesn’t even look like me.”
The “whining about superfluous posts” posts take up space, too. Just sayin’
At this point, I don't see a need for the defense to call any witnesses. So far every witness called by the state has ended up being a defense witness.
Unless the state can prove up at least one element of the murder charge, Zimmerman is under no obligation to try to rebut it. The state has established only that Zimmerman shot Martin and that Martin was on top of Zimmerman and beating him MMA style on the sidewalk, when Zimmerman shot him once.
In order to prove either manslaughter or murder, the state must prove first that the killing was unlawful (which they haven't proved) and secondly (for the murder charge) that there was malice aforethought.
The state has this theory that Zimmerman "profiled" Martin (which is not unlawful) and that he then decided to hunt him down and kill him. That is basically what they told the jury they were going to prove in their opening statement.
Well they haven't proven anything.
I believe that a directed verdict is in order. At this point, the prosecution is grasping at straws to try to convince the jury that Zimmerman was an uncontrolled vigilante. They have shown exactly the opposite.
Even a prejudiced jury should see through this charade. They would have to have their own personal vendetta against Zimmerman to convict him on the evidence they have seen up to this point.
Maybe BDLR has a rabbit up his sleeve, but usually the rabbit comes out at the beginning of the case and the rest of the evidence you put on confirms the rabbit. In this case they have nothing. No rabbit up the sleeve, no evidence of guilt, just smoke and mirrors.
Usually you see the defense trying to put out smoke and mirrors to confuse the jury. In this case it is the state which is acting like a desperate defense team with a guilty client.
Has anyone noticed how few objections the defense team has raised versus the constant objecting by the prosecution? The jury often interprets objections as a means to hide the truth from them. At this point, if I am on the jury, I am going to be pretty pissed off at the State for trying to keep me from hearing or seeing testimony.
Almost every objection by BDLR has been on substantive grounds, apparently trying to keep information from the jury. MOM's objections have been largely procedural, more as the the form of the questions than the content.
It appears to me that the defense wants the whole truth to come out and the state has been trying to keep selective portions of the truth away from the jury. The jury knows this.
Yep. ‘You got me” sounds alot like ‘you shot me’.
When I got the replacement ran over a squirrel , black snake and deer in half hour. My son s comment. “ He’ll mom you’re aiming it instead of driving !”
I did miss the flock of sheep that were out a few days later. Sheriff dispatcher ( a friend) offered their congratulation over their radio. Lots of laughs!
As does the whining about the whining about superfluous....oh never mind.
Oh yeah, I remember those locks from back in the fifties.
Would you say that some people in that complex might not lock their windows and the burglar could determine that when he slipped the tool under the window?
...and remember you are under oath. Lol.
If you can pry open a window with a SLIM JIM, then I’m the Pope.
There is no gap for the slim jim to slide through, and a Slim Jim is notoriosly flimsy and flexible.
It isn’t designed to open home windows. I was talking about car doors. I know understand that the conversation involves the idea that there was a SLIM JIM by the awning, or a piece of the awning described as a SLIM JIM, but where is that piece of evidence ?
A slim jim would be the WRONG thing to try and use to pry open a screen or window. Well... it might pop a screen out of it’s track, but that would only help if the window was open.
Don’t feed the troll. Ignore, thanks.
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