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Day 16 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 1, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/01/2013 5:17:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 1st, is DAY #16 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Last week the prosecution feebly presented the first series of witnesses against George Zimmerman. However, as most observers would note, the witnesses called by the state have so far been more beneficial for the Zimmerman Self-Defense position.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: florida; sanford; skittles; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: sheikdetailfeather

From WFTV blog:

11:31

Comment From justwatching
This may be a bad move on the part of the State. The Jury can now hear George’s mousey voice. Sounds a lot like the screams to me.

11:31

Comment From CindyL
ADVICE: Never wave your miranda rights under any circumstance unless advised by legal counsel! And no matter how innocent you maybe the prosecution will and has twisted many people’s innocent statements and made them look guilty. They are NOT on your side. They are NOT trying to get the truth but any statement that they can use to make you look guilty if they “feel” you are guilty.

11:31

Comment From lovewftv
he should have asked for an attorney.

11:31

Bill Sheaffer:
This is why you should ask for an attorney


281 posted on 07/01/2013 8:37:18 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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So Bernie is trying to allege that because he remembered the name Kent Taylor of Leland Management Martin hadn’t beat him badly enough.


282 posted on 07/01/2013 8:37:21 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Gay State Conservative

West didn’t probe that aspect very much, but the witness said that extreme stress causes physical changes that cannot be faked by an actor, and that sort of stress was present in the recording. Whoever was screaming felt genuine, extreme fear.

That by itself indicates it was the person on the bottom screaming. It also gives direct evidence of the state of mind of one of the two - extreme stress / fear of death. Since the other physical evidence indicates Zimmerman was the only one with a valid reason for any fear, I think it shows Zimmerman’s state of mind at the time of the shooting - and it provides direct evidence that Zimmerman acted legally. The law doesn’t require you to be in certifiable fear of your life, only that you be genuinely afraid of death or severe injury.


283 posted on 07/01/2013 8:37:57 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Sacajaweau

Speaking of Dee Dee...where is she?

Rachel Jenteal is not Dee Dee.

I was reading on another thread, or maybe it was earlier on this one - too many threads to parse - that Trayvonn’s father’s girl friend has a close female friend who has a daughter named “Dee Dee”...

And I remember in the months leading up to this trial that all the blog talk was Dee Dee, out the wazoo. Dee Dee on the phone with Trayvonn, Dee Dee’s interview etc etc.

Suddenly, now, no Dee Dee.

So when you write, give Dee Dee a lie detector test, I’m asking, where is this person??


284 posted on 07/01/2013 8:38:10 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

THANK YOU!


285 posted on 07/01/2013 8:38:12 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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So far, the prosecution witness is making a case for Zimmmerman. Zimmerman offered her two sources to find if there was security video in the complex. A guilty person would not want video, eh?


286 posted on 07/01/2013 8:40:03 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: All

Wow, Treyvons circles his car? That soon ?


287 posted on 07/01/2013 8:40:52 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Sacajaweau

There’s some exception for family members who are also to be called as witnesses. I forget what the additional exception to that exception is that allows TM’s parents in but GZ’s parents out, maybe it’s reversed when the Defense puts on its case.


288 posted on 07/01/2013 8:41:07 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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The house that he first saw him in front of was Frank Taffe’s where there had been an incident 3 weeks before.


289 posted on 07/01/2013 8:41:11 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: UCANSEE2

Is this the first time the jurors have heard a non screaming George? His demeanor is impressive.


290 posted on 07/01/2013 8:41:26 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Mr Rogers

291 posted on 07/01/2013 8:42:30 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Fawn

So Zimmerman is testifying without actually having to testify.

what happened to the videos that Zimmerman said were available on the security cameras??


292 posted on 07/01/2013 8:42:47 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: sheikdetailfeather

>> WFTV at bottom of screen shows “WARNING: THE TESTIMONY MAY BE GRAPHIC.”

I think it’s boiler plate.

By the way are you sure it’s “WFTV”? Not “WTFTV”? :-)


293 posted on 07/01/2013 8:43:03 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: don-o
At the break, Bill Schaeffer said he does not think the defense saw this strategy coming (pros calls a defense witness)

All part of their brilliant prosecution strategy -- call all the defense's witnesses first, then tell the jury that the defense must not have much of a case because they didn't call any witnesses. :-)

294 posted on 07/01/2013 8:43:15 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: txrangerette

I think you read my post.

Here is the link to the source of that info. Beware the source, be skeptical of any source as a general rule, but is the info correct ? Seems so. Read for yourself, see the whole thing like I did.

Trayvon Martin – Who is Brandy Green, really?
http://radionewz.net/2012/07/trayvon-martin-who-is-brandy-green-really/


295 posted on 07/01/2013 8:43:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Fawn

Wow, Treyvons circles his car?


...in fear. He circled his car in fear. You know, kinda like sharks do...


296 posted on 07/01/2013 8:44:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Same “WARNING” appears at the bottom of the screen on clickorlando.

I like the commentators there, they seem to be unbiased in the breaks and during lunch recess.


297 posted on 07/01/2013 8:45:28 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: UCANSEE2

why don’t people just take the time to find out what’s up before the full on attack?

that was painful to watch. especially as I was going through what was posted to see what it was all about. Then the thread got pulled....


298 posted on 07/01/2013 8:46:11 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: UCANSEE2

Good point. If jurors can only reason...

I’ve thought of a similar point. People are always ranting that Z was trying to act out like a cop and that he didn’t do what a dispatcher said but took matters into his own hands. I know, I know, he was going back to his vehicle when T jumped him, but I’m just sayin’ what people have ranted.

Well, if Zimmerman was trying to stalk and attack/kill the suspicious person, he would not be on the phone with police dispatch talking to them through the episode.

He would act as a lone wolf and definitely not be talking to those in law enforcement.

So clearly, attacking or killing Trayvonn was NOT his plan. Clearly, he was following the person trying to keep an eye on where he was and what he was up to...

No other conclusion is POSSIBLE.


299 posted on 07/01/2013 8:47:11 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: jacquej
I wish he could examine Rachel voice, and the tapes that IChing linked earlier this morning, and see if these were the same people!

That would be amazing, like the big shocker at the end of a movie. He definitely has enough of the taped interviews and the in-court testimony to make a decision. There has been some very reasoned debate here about whether or not the two voices are the same.

300 posted on 07/01/2013 8:49:38 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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