Posted on 06/28/2013 2:34:32 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Just to preface her post, a good point by DrewM:
DrewM @DrewMTips
How many ppl saying "cut Marco slack. Don't write him off in 16" would FREAK out if he became pro-choice & helped Dems loosen abortion laws? 2:41 PM - 28 Jun 2013
We all have our “red line” issues, as Drew says. Offhand, I can’t think of a single person I know privately or on Twitter who supports (or is indifferent to) the Gang of Eight bill and who also traditionally has treated border security as a “red line.” Everyone wants better border security and everybody thinks it’s important for immigrants to follow the rule of law, but when push comes to shove, some people are okay with bending on this in the name of other political goals and others are not. If you believe the polls about background checks and gun control, we might very well win a few extra votes by caving on that too. Want to do that? We might also win some votes by declaring our support for abortion in the first trimester. Okay to do that? We all have our “red lines.”
Here’s Palin drawing a “red line” of her own for people angry about the big amnesty pander. Whole post is at the link, but this is the key bit:
Great job, GOP establishment. You’ve just abandoned the Reagan Democrats with this amnesty bill, and we needed them to “enlarge that tent” of which you so often speak. It’s depressing to consider that the House of Representatives is threatening to pass some version of this nonsensical bill in the coming weeks.
Once again, I’ll point out the obvious to you: it was the loss of working class voters in swing states that cost us the 2012 election, not the Hispanic vote. Legal immigrants respect the rule of law and can see how self-centered a politician must be to fill this amnesty bill with favors, earmarks, and crony capitalists’ pork, and call it good. You disrespect Hispanics with your assumption that they desire ignoring the rule of law.
Folks like me are barely hanging on to our enlistment papers in any political party – and it’s precisely because flip-flopping political actions like amnesty force us to ask how much more bull from both the elephants in the Republican Party and the jackasses in the Democrat Party we have to swallow before these political machines totally abandon the average commonsense hardworking American. Now we turn to watch the House. If they bless this new “bi-partisan” hyper-partisan devastating plan for amnesty, we’ll know that both private political parties have finally turned their backs on us. It will then be time to show our parties’ hierarchies what we think of being members of either one of these out-of-touch, arrogant, and dysfunctional political machines.
I don’t know how disrespected Hispanics feel by the immigration reform push; according to Pew, 90 percent think illegals should have a way to stay legally in the U.S. and 59 percent think they should be allowed to apply for legal status even before border improvements have been made. Her broader point, though, about the party’s crushing failure to engage effectively with the working- and middle-class is spot on. That’s what I was getting at in the McCain post: This amnesty charade is simply the GOP’s way of dressing a gaping economic wound that cuts across racial demographics by putting an identity-politics band-aid on it, as if legalizing more cheap labor to make things even harder on working-class Americans doesn’t make the problem worse. The real reason to despair and start thinking third-party isn’t the amnesty bill itself, it’s the fact that this is what the party feels compelled to resort to now in lieu of building a better economic agenda. If they can’t figure out how to talk to people who aren’t entrepreneurs about pocketbook issues, then why keep donating to them and organizing for them? They’ve flunked politics 101. We’re pumping a dry well here.
If the House sells out on Immigration, too, it is all over, even more all over than it is if Obamacare is implemented. With the new voting rights of 10 to 20, 30,50, 100 million- however many latinos and Moslems want to come here, Repunblicans will never win another national or, in most states, state election. Single Party totalitarian Democrat rule will be a fait accompli and nonreversible. No other new party will fare any better.
Night be?
And what’s this us leaving? They’ve left us. They’ve gone full nutterbutter democrat.
If these guys are what’s passing for the party that supposedly is FOR conservatives, they’re the democrats’ best friends, not ours.
Too late, I’m afraid.
The Party of Government (Democrat wing and Republican wing) will have completed the destruction of America before any new parties will have a chance to stop them.
Michelle Bachman explained it. ANY House bill no matter if it promises all the border security in the world will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.
Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway.
Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won’t vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so then they only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the members of the House.
I have already removed myself from the Republocratic Party, Rubio has shown me no republican can be trusted.
I will not help, donate to, or vote for a republican again, I will only vote for a conservative.
At this point I agree with Sarah, it third party time, hope she starts one, I will be the third to join.
Ms. Palin...
It is time for right thinking people to see the writing on the wall and LEAVE the country....
Getting away from the GOP only keeps the former GOPer trapped as a slave to taxes and more insults to their liberties....
Leave the GOP? And then do what?
There’s only one way this can end.
“Might”?
Tom Tancredo echos what Michelle Bachmann said.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3036438/posts
call congress . no bill at all from the House
I changed my part affiliation after the Republicans raised taxes earlier this year. I had been a Republican my entire life but no more.
At this point I agree with Sarah, it third party time, hope she starts one, I will be the third to join.
Might be time?
Pfffttt. I left a long time ago.
It's never too late. A large segment of the economy will go underground, leaving limited resources for the freeloaders.
The RNC-HQ is off the reservation and begging for crumbs at the Donkey-big tent.... May the spawn of Rove and Kristol rot forever!
The Tea Party Republicans need to replace Boehner as Speaker right now.
It’s about the 10th crisis of leadership past time to leave the GOP and form a new party.
The problem is that new party’s need to start on the local level and build from there. It’s a 20-year thing because the 2 party’s in power have written the laws specifically to stop third party’s from coming to power quickly.
It can happen, but it needs a cubic shit ton of work, structure, and money. Really, money. Plus, the first ones to stand up will be butchered by both parties and the media. Anyone with balls and all of the above, raise your hand.
“Same here. A truly Conservative 3rd party would take off like a wild fire”
I am so fed up with the republican party and all the misleading voters.
Please Sarah start a third party, let’s finish off the republocrats.
Palin is right and her talk about leaving the GOP if the House passes some kind of amnesty bill should wake a few people up. This is the Republican Vice Presidential candidate of just 5 years ago, not some anonymous blogger who is disenchanted with the Republican party because they won’t impeach Obama or some other futile act of opposition. Yes, Palin is disregarded by some conservatives to whom no one now living is a ‘real’ conservative or because of some other complaint. But for those of us who can see the looming disaster if the House Republicans commit political suicide and do massive damage to the nation by passing this ‘immigration reform’ bill or some slightly different version of it, Sarah Palin’s comments are dead-on.
Ahem, please make that Mrs. Palin. Better yet, President Palin.
Amen, KC Lion?
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