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Does the South Belong in the Union?
Townhall ^ | 06/28/2013 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 06/28/2013 8:44:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Is the Second Reconstruction over?

The first ended with the withdrawal of Union troops from the Southern states as part of a deal that gave Rutherford B. Hayes the presidency after the disputed election of 1876.

The second began with the Voting Rights Act of 1965, a century after Appomattox. Under the VRA, Southern states seeking to make even minor changes in voting laws had to come to Washington to plead their case before the Justice Department and such lions of the law as Eric Holder.

Southern states were required to get this pre-clearance for any alterations in voting laws because of systematic violations of the 14th and 15th amendment constitutional rights of black Americans to equal access to polling places and voting booths.

The South had discriminated by using poll taxes, gerrymandering and literacy tests, among other tactics. Dixie was in the penalty box because it had earned a place there.

What the Supreme Court did Tuesday, in letting the South out of the box, is to declare that, as this is not 1965, you cannot use abuses that date to 1965, but have long since disappeared, to justify indefinite federal discrimination against the American South.

You cannot impose burdens on Southern states, five of which recorded higher voting percentages among their black populations in 2012 than among their white populations, based on practices of 50 years ago that were repudiated and abandoned in another era.

You cannot punish Southern leaders in 2013 for the sins of their grandfathers. As Chief Justice John Roberts noted, black turnout in 2012 was higher in Mississippi than in Massachusetts.

Does this mean the South is now free to discriminate again?

By no means. State action that discriminates against minority voters can still be brought before the Department of Justice.

Even the "pre-clearance" provision of the VRA remains. All the court has said is that if Congress wishes to impose a pre-clearance provision on a state or group of states, Congress must have more evidence to justify unequal treatment than what "Bull" Connor did in Birmingham back in 1965.

Congress could pass a bill today authorizing Justice Department intervention in any state where the registration of blacks, Hispanics or Asians fell below 60 percent of that electorate.

What Congress can no longer do is impose conditions on Southern states from which Northern states are exempt. Washington can no longer treat the states unequally -- for that, too, is a violation of the Constitution.

The Roberts court just took a giant stride to restoring the Union.

Yet the hysterical reaction to the decision reveals a great deal.

What do critics say they are afraid of?

While conceding that immense progress has been made with the huge turnout of black voters in the South and the re-election of a black president, they say they fear that without the pre-clearance provision this would never have happened. And now that the provision no longer applies to the South, the evil old ways will return.

On several counts this is disheartening.

For what the critics of the court decision are saying is that, no matter the progress made over half a century, they do not trust the South to deal fairly and decently with its black citizens, without a club over its head. They do not believe the South has changed in its heart from the days of segregation.

They think the South is lying in wait for a new opportunity to disfranchise its black voters. And they think black Southerners are unable to defend their own interests -- without Northern liberal help.

In this belief there are elements of paranoia, condescension and bigotry.

Many liberals not only do not trust the South, some detest it. And many seem to think it deserves to be treated differently than the more progressive precincts of the nation.

Consider Wednesday's offering by Washington Post columnist Harold Meyerson. The South, he writes, is the home of "so-called right-to-work laws" and hostility to the union shop, undergirded by "the virulent racism of the white Southern establishment," a place where a "right-wing antipathy toward workers' rights" is pandemic.

The South is the "the heartland of cheap-labor America. ... When it wants to slum, business still goes to the South." Then there are those "reactionary white Republican state governments."

Were a conservative to use the term "black" as a slur the way Meyerson spits out the word "white," he would be finished at the Post. Meyerson's summation:

"If the federal government wants to build a fence that keeps the United States safe from the danger of lower wages and poverty and their attendant ills -- and the all-round fruitcakery of the right-wing white South -- it should build that fence from Norfolk to Dallas. There is nothing wrong with a fence as long as you put it in the right place."

Harold looks forward to the day that a surging Latino population forces "epochal political change" on a detestable white South.


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To: SeekAndFind

Absolutely not.


61 posted on 06/28/2013 9:58:43 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: no-to-illegals
I seem to remember reading that somewhere. If he did, I am sure that the command did it's best to keep it under wraps. News spreads fast, and they saw what happened to morale after Jackson's death.

I know it is fun to play "what if", but I always wondered if Jackson had he lived been able to persuade Lee to fight on a more level area, or even better find terrain that better suited the fight. I always sensed he trusted Jackson more than Longstreet anyway.

I also wonder how the PR and morale would have played if this fight would have been within the outskirts of DC.

62 posted on 06/28/2013 10:03:15 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: pepsionice

Protestant Hispanics went 56% republican in 2994, and 48% republican in 2008, they don’t need much to get them right.

Catholic Hispanics will never be republican, in American history the Catholic vote has only gone republican 5 times and that was without Hispanics, and those “good old days” are already gone.


63 posted on 06/28/2013 10:07:33 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: ansel12

Of course that is 2004, not 2994.


64 posted on 06/28/2013 10:08:02 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: catfish1957
I believe you are correct about the trust Lee had for Jackson verses Longstreet. Yes, what ifs, are the best part of history. I think Lee was convinced his army could defeat any foe on any field. Longstreet was rebuffed. Lee also may have been thinking of the Revolutionary War Battle of Kings Mountain. Ferguson held the high ground and was routed. Lee had the same confidence in his army till Gettysburg.
65 posted on 06/28/2013 10:08:21 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: SeekAndFind

Utah doesn’t fit, they are at almost the bottom for military service.


66 posted on 06/28/2013 10:10:03 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.


67 posted on 06/28/2013 10:21:22 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Look for this country in time to break-up, just like what the old Soviet Union did in the early 90’s. Big countries tend to do that.


68 posted on 06/28/2013 10:22:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will be seperate countries not colonies.


69 posted on 06/28/2013 10:23:58 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: qam1

The country will break up along red states/blue states lines.


70 posted on 06/28/2013 10:25:59 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: pepsionice
Suddenly, you’ve got half the Latino population in America who are either Tea Party or Republican. I think the Democrats really screwed up on their long-term strategy.

ABSOLUTE BS! All that matters for a vast majority of hispanics (and blacks too) is whatever free goodies they can mooch off the government. That is it and guess which party promises them free goodies? You don't see a mass exodus of hispanics from the Democrats because of gay marriage do you?

And if Hispanics really were such "natural conservatives" then why is so many of the GOP embracing gay marriage? How is that going to help us in attracting latinos?

Free goodies. That is what it is all about. You want to attract latinos, then the GOP must become Democrat-lite.

The GOP bears so much responsibility for this illegal immigration mess. For decades they received bribes in the form of campaign contributions from the cheap labor lobby. Now it has come to this, yet they could care less what happens to the country. As long as they and their families are taken care of, they will happily live in their gated communities while the rest of us suffer from their policies.

71 posted on 06/28/2013 10:30:38 AM PDT by eekitsagreek (Tip like a Greek during tough economic times: 3% in loose change!)
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To: null and void

Next time pick your own dam cotton


72 posted on 06/28/2013 10:31:30 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.


73 posted on 06/28/2013 10:42:23 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: central_va
MD was going Dixie then King Lincoln started arresting the legislature and the rest is history.

Or what passes for history at any rate.

74 posted on 06/28/2013 10:51:11 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: needmorePaine

Add a forth one: Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, the Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Utah and Washington. You can even add Alaska. We’ll call it Conservative States of America and you all can have the Confederate States of America back. Hope you have better luck than last time.


75 posted on 06/28/2013 10:58:09 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: catfish1957
If he did, I am sure that the command did it's best to keep it under wraps.

If he did then I doubt they recognized it. Symptoms of a heart attack or high blood pressure were unknown. Generally it wasn't until they keeled over did they realize anything was wrong.

76 posted on 06/28/2013 11:00:20 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: ansel12
Utah doesn’t fit, they are at almost the bottom for military service.

We'll take them. See reply 75.

77 posted on 06/28/2013 11:01:52 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O

Utah is not what people think, they are a cancer eager to nourish on whatever political winds help them toward their end game.


78 posted on 06/28/2013 11:11:02 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: 0.E.O
Add a forth one: Oklahoma,Kansas,Nebraska,the Dakotas,Wyoming,Montana,Idaho,Utah and Washington. You can even add Alaska. We’ll call it Conservative States of America and you all can have the Confederate States of America back. Hope you have better luck than last time.

I'm actually in the Northeast and would escape to one of the Mountain West states. I may do that anyway, whether or not there is a split.
Oh, and I think part of the American divorce would include returning Colorado to the conservative side. Tell the ex-Californians to go back from whence they came.
79 posted on 06/28/2013 11:11:20 AM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: needmorePaine
Oh, and I think part of the American divorce would include returning Colorado to the conservative side. Tell the ex-Californians to go back from whence they came.

Sorry, they went over to the dark side a couple of election cycles ago.

80 posted on 06/28/2013 11:13:25 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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