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Ted Cruz Exposes Amnesty Bill: $5000 Penalty For Hiring Citizens Over Legalized Aliens
Freedom Outpost ^ | June 27, 2013 | Dean Garrison

Posted on 06/27/2013 6:37:09 PM PDT by EXCH54FE

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To: EXCH54FE

They are trying to sell us a sh#t sandwich by telling us it’s a chocolate chip cookie.


41 posted on 06/27/2013 7:24:10 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
What’s RPI status?

Registered Provisional Immigrant

42 posted on 06/27/2013 7:25:30 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: EXCH54FE

I want to know who the bastard is that put it in there in the first place.


43 posted on 06/27/2013 7:25:44 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: EXCH54FE

They already passed it. Is the tax/penalty still in the Senate bill?


44 posted on 06/27/2013 7:31:43 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: stockpirate; All

I’ve been suspecting that for some time, especially when DHS started stockpiling bullets. However, part of that plan was to keep all those gun-grabbers from having bullets to shoot at them .. especially the hollow-point.

And .. the more I hear Obama talk about not bothering with Snowden, I can’t help but wonder if Obama’s hoping he gives away enough information to our enemies that we get hit again ..??

What better way to be able to declare martial law and suspend all elections. Tah Dah!!

Of course, in the meantime, Hamas could hit Israel with sarin gas; Israel could hit back at Damascus (where the Sarin came from); Isaiah 17:1 - and nobody will be paying any attention to America.


45 posted on 06/27/2013 7:33:18 PM PDT by CyberAnt (AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away")
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To: EXCH54FE

5 Senators Who Support Immigration Bill Don’t Know Answer to Key Question About It.Obamacare poses a tricky problem for supporters of the Senate’s comprehensive immigration reform bill. It would be too politically toxic to give illegal immigrants amnesty and taxpayer subsidies under Obamacare, so the Senate bill prohibits “registered provisional immigrants” (individuals who are now residing illegally in the United States granted legal status under the bill) from receiving Obamacare subsidies. But in so doing the Senate’s immigration bill would create a big financial incentive for some employers to hire non-citizens granted legal status over American citizens.As the Washington Examiner’s Philip Klein recently reported: “Under Obamacare, businesses with over 50 workers that employ American citizens without offering them qualifying health insurance could be subject to fines of up to $3,000 per worker. But because newly legalized immigrants wouldn’t be eligible for subsidies on the Obamacare exchanges until after they become citizens – at least 13 years under the Senate bill – businesses could avoid such fines by hiring the new immigrants instead.”

On Tuesday afternoon, THE WEEKLY STANDARD asked five different U.S. Senators about this problem. These five senators, all Democrats, voted to cut off debate Monday night on the revised immigration bill, but none of them knew if the bill would create a financial incentive for some employers to hire amnestied immigrants instead of American citizens.

“We’re trying to solve that right now. I don’t know if that’s been solved,” Senator Max Baucus of Montana (chief author of Obamacare) told THE WEEKLY STANDARD.
“I don’t know. I’d have to look at it closely,” said Senator Bob Casey of Pennsylvania. “I just haven’t read it that closely to know.”

Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut said he thought the Affordable Care Act’s fines would apply no matter what. “I’d have to look at the ACA, but I don’t think it distinguishes” between citizens and those on a path to citizenship, Blumenthal said. But then he said he wasn’t quite sure. “I mean I’d have to look. You’re asking a legal question. It’s not an opinion question,” Blumenthal added. “I don’t recall any distinction in the law. But that’s a good question. I’d have to check.” Senator Tom Carper of Delaware said he was too busy to answer the question. “I don’t have the time to drill down on it right now,” he told me. And Senator Barbara Boxer of California replied with something of a non sequitur before the Senators-only elevator doors closed in my face. “I think if you work for an employer who offers health care, you will get the health care you want,” Boxer said. Spokesmen for Senators McCain and Rubio did not reply to a request for comment.
Another let’s pass the bill so we can see what is in it.


46 posted on 06/27/2013 7:48:00 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: onyx
Saw this posted elsewhere...

No Amnesty for the invaders, no re-election for the traitors.


47 posted on 06/27/2013 7:53:16 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: HerrBlucher

As well as ‘fees’ earned, they have larded the act with a lot of pork riders having nothing to do with illegal aliens and border security.
At p.36 they inserted an “initial funding” amount of over 44 billion. The sequester donchknow, it’s cramped their style. Just a little later, on the next page, they leave the decision of building a fence or not up to 0’s Uruk Hai. They have no intention of securing the border.
1. They need more money, and,
2. They want amnesty. Period.


48 posted on 06/27/2013 7:58:11 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: CyberAnt

I would not think that will be a good issue for Obama to run on. Aren’t most Americans against this instant amnesty bill?


49 posted on 06/27/2013 7:58:17 PM PDT by woweeitsme
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sfl


50 posted on 06/27/2013 8:00:38 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: woweeitsme

It’s all about blaming the repubs for not allowing all these people to get citizenship.


51 posted on 06/27/2013 8:04:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt (AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away")
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To: Jane Long

BUMP!


52 posted on 06/27/2013 8:10:26 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: phockthis

Boehner should declare the DOA and move on to Obamas impeachment.


53 posted on 06/27/2013 8:13:23 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Travis McGee
( From the article ): " Cruz found a loophole that actually penalizes an employer $5000 for hiring a citizen over a legalized alien. "

That public Offical should be identified for violating their oath of office .. and then summarily discharged !

I'll bet it was SCHUMER !!

I say it , because he is the only one who wants the

" SCHUMER TO HIT THE FAN !!


54 posted on 06/27/2013 8:16:51 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Ray76

And .. your point is ..??

What is your evidence he is not “natural born” ..??


55 posted on 06/27/2013 8:26:13 PM PDT by CyberAnt (AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away")
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To: CyberAnt

There is a path to citizenship. The path we offer is the most generous in the world. Many people follow our path.

Unfortunately many others do not. Of those that do not 60-70% are Mexican.

Why should Mexicans be allowed to violate our law? Why should they be favored over all other foreigners? Why should any illegal alien, Mexican or not, be favored over those who follow our law?


56 posted on 06/27/2013 8:34:31 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: CyberAnt

Originally you asked, “Well, he’s an American Citizen .. so what’s the problem.”

Now you ask for evidence that Cruz is not a natural born citizen.

So what is your point? You do realize that “citizen” is not the same as “natural born citizen”?


57 posted on 06/27/2013 8:44:02 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: CyberAnt

Don’t be creepy. Post in the forum.

You mailed, “Are you claiming he’s not a “natural born citizen” ..?? If so, please explain.”

Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, December 22, 1970, to a US citizen mother and a Cuban citizen father. He is a natural born citizen of Canada (Canadian Citizenship Act, R.S.C. 1970, c. C-19, s. 5(1,3))

Cruz is a naturalized US citizen (8 U.S.C. § 1401(g))


58 posted on 06/27/2013 8:49:38 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: tiki
We need to do FOIA requests for their contact from constituents. I’ll guarantee it is 5 to 1 against...

I heard on the radio earlier today (not sure of the source, though) that it is more like 99 to 1 against.

59 posted on 06/27/2013 8:52:06 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: EXCH54FE
What in the hell are these Senators trying to sell us?

The chains to our own enslavement, I think.
Kinda like making the executed's family pay for the bullet.

60 posted on 06/27/2013 9:06:46 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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