if the larger companies bought enough equipment to raise production 10%, i think they'd prolly pay for themselves and then some before that happens
Posted on 06/25/2013 7:12:56 PM PDT by Nachum
PHOENIX, AZ --(Ammoland.com)- I haven’t seen anything that suggests foul play of any kind, to me, it’s strictly supply and demand, and it shows you what panic in a market looks like.
Rationing and price spikes are the result of demand far outstripping supply.
Sure, government ammo purchases should give you pause, it’s the reason we’re all armed.
A trusted source provided this:
“Take for example .22LR ammunition. The industry as a whole (all manufacturers combined) is setup to produce 4,200,000,000 (4.2 Billions) .22 LR annually. That is running all the machines, full capacity all the time, all manufacturers together.
There is NOTHING they can do to produce more.
That corresponds to 230,137 cartridge per State per day, which is 460 bricks of 500 .22lr per day per State. That means that if less than 50 people per day in each State are buying 10 bricks of .22, it is enough to dry up the entire supply as it is being manufactured.”
News from ammo makers seems OK too, but it’s right to be wary. Trust but verify. How do you do that?
If you don’t have ammo, you’re stuck in a high market. If you’re like many Americans, you’ll comfortably ride this out until the market corrects.
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
Maybe, but making 22 ammo would seem to be a whole different machine than the ones making centerfire ammo, so it would seem they only have one option for those machines and that’s 22 or similar rimfire. That, and 17HMR is really expensive. It’s just a 22 magnum necked down to .17, but it costs as much as any centerfire.
Ditto.
I gave away a brick to a buddy/customer who found himself close to being out of .22s...
I was thinking more along the lines of cost to manufacture versus the amount of profit for the various calibers.
The .22 rimfire machines would be totally different and specialized just for that purpose.
A 500 round brick of .22LR costs about the same as a 50 round box of .40 or .45 pistol ammo, but wouldn’t there be a lot more brass and lead going into the .22LR ammo?
Because federal ammo excise tax records are public
So only 14 rounds of .22LR are manufactured for every man, woman, and child in the U.S. per year?
Thus only 8.4 million people can purchase a brik of .22LR every year.
Bullets are to cartridges as flour is to bread as cement is to concrete, etc. When will you and they ever learn?
Someone’s making big $ on it; I’ve seen bricks, online and in stores, go from $9.25 to $75-90. That’s just insane.
if the larger companies bought enough equipment to raise production 10%, i think they'd prolly pay for themselves and then some before that happens
i don't know anybody that loads .22 and that is what the article is about... it also says nothing about component shortages, only production capacity
Good to know. Didn’t think of something like that.
No, that is how the free market works to allocate scarce resources. The alternative is "...each according to their needs".
The current administration prefers that those who vote for a living be able to live as well as those who work for a living.
“...those who vote for a living be able to live as well as those who work for a living.”
My neck hairs are standing on-end. All too true.
No, no one reloads 22’s, didn’t mean to imply that at all. They do need powder and brass. Powder is in short supply and brass is scarce and the price has skyrocketed for the raw material. It has turned into the perfect storm as far as supply and demand and doesn’t seem to be easing any time soon. Production is being gobbled up by the gov and the private sector both. I don’t worry about that though, I no longer have any guns to fire the ammo in. They tragically are laying at the bottom of the Tennessee river
Thank you for the correction. You’re obviously a real fart smeller
i guess my point was that there is no mention in the article about shortages of lead, copper, powder or brass at all, simply that the machines are running at full capacity...
I'm in manufacturing for mainly the auto industry. Running full capacity doesn't necessarily mean running 24/7. You're running all you can is all that it means
very true, i guess i was reading too much into the all the time part... That is running all the machines, full capacity all the time,
Checked Walmart today. Plenty of 9mm, .243, and 7.62x39. No .223 or .308.
A friend who used to stand up manufacturing plants for a living tells me it’s generally a two year process to get new capacity on stream.
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