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U.S. education spending tops global list, study shows
CBS News ^ | June 25, 2013

Posted on 06/25/2013 1:21:18 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The United States spends more than other developed nations on its students' education each year, with parents and private foundations picking up more of the costs.

Despite the spending, U.S. students still trail their rivals on international tests.

The United States spent more than $11,000 per elementary student in 2010 and more than $12,000 per high school student. When researchers factored in the cost for programs after high school education such as college or vocational training, the United States spent $15,171 on each young person in the system — more than any other nation covered in the report.

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1 posted on 06/25/2013 1:21:18 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It also gets the least and worse return on that investment.


2 posted on 06/25/2013 1:22:35 PM PDT by edcoil (When given a choice, take both.)
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To: edcoil

Teachez Unionz


3 posted on 06/25/2013 1:24:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

May I have butter on that? Spreads the bread!


4 posted on 06/25/2013 1:24:47 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
But aren't Liberals always telling us that we need to invest more ine education?

The truth, as reasoanble people know, is that you can spend next to nothing on an intelligent student who wants to learn and he or she will succeed, and you can spend buckets of money on students who either don't want to learn or have little talent and they will fail. The Kansas City School Project is proof of that.

www.Kansas City School Experiment.com

For decades critics of the public schools have been saying, "You can't solve educational problems by throwing money at them." The education establishment and its supporters have replied, "No one's ever tried." In Kansas City they did try. To improve the education of black students and encourage desegregation, a federal judge invited the Kansas City, Missouri, School District to come up with a cost-is-no-object educational plan and ordered local and state taxpayers to find the money to pay for it.

Kansas City spent as much as $11,700 per pupil--more money per pupil, on a cost of living adjusted basis, than any other of the 280 largest districts in the country. The money bought higher teachers' salaries, 15 new schools, and such amenities as an Olympic-sized swimming pool with an underwater viewing room, television and animation studios, a robotics lab, a 25-acre wildlife sanctuary, a zoo, a model United Nations with simultaneous translation capability, and field trips to Mexico and Senegal. The student-teacher ratio was 12 or 13 to 1, the lowest of any major school district in the country.

The results were dismal. Test scores did not rise; the black-white gap did not diminish; and there was less, not greater, integration.

5 posted on 06/25/2013 1:30:43 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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Throwing money at the public schools is just graft. Insiders and Mafioso have their hands in everything, from the food in the lunchroom to paper towels in the restrooms to pencils, paper and cleaning services.


6 posted on 06/25/2013 1:37:18 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
When will the ‘establishment’ recognize that all those innovations in education over the last 50 years or so just don't work? New Math doesn't work, Whole Language doesn't work, replacing honest evaluations with feel-good grades doesn't work, and most of all that self-esteem doesn't CAUSE students to do well, rather doing well is a natural source of high self-esteem.

I know, the answer is never because it doesn't further the NEA agenda of high pay and great working conditions for teachers, nor does it meet the elitists goal of dumbing down the masses...

7 posted on 06/25/2013 1:37:18 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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I'm not buying it. Possibly meaningless dollars per student ratios aside, how many so-called education dollars are possibly going to pensions, global warming research and beer parties?

Here's a recent FR thread that leads me to question how so-called education dollars are actually being spent.

Fed Shocked To Find Student Loans Used For Anything But To Learn

8 posted on 06/25/2013 1:37:58 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Using their numbers, each classroom cost taxpayers $379K per year.


9 posted on 06/25/2013 1:42:37 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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10 posted on 06/25/2013 1:47:01 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The United States spends more than other developed nations on its students' education each year, with parents and private foundations picking up more of the costs. Despite the spending, U.S. students still trail their rivals on international tests.

Which only means that all of the spending on "education" is just to provide "jobs" for more liberal unionistas to indoctrinate our kids in liberalism.

Good use of our tax dollars.

11 posted on 06/25/2013 1:55:00 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; edcoil; stephenjohnbanker; NotYourAverageDhimmi; Kay Ludlow; Sopater
U.S. students still trail their rivals on international tests.

Read: tests prepared by America bashers. 

Left wing party hacks bash US education so they can justify more spending, and right-wing hacks bash US education to justify cutting federal spending.  None of them gives a damn about education. 

Until they want to hire someone who knows something --that's when everyone across the political spectrum makes it a point to always hire a graduate from a US university.  That's when they all come back to reality on the Planet Earth.  Fact is that the American worker's productivity is way ahead of those of any other country on the planet; no way we can say Americans are uneducated. 

Most Americans have graduated from high school and have had some college.  Most foreigners haven't.  Most country's school systems are two-tiered --ruling class kids go to college and most kids cut the trades and get a weaker back ground in math, science, and communication.  Most American high schools use the same math, science, and English teachers for all students.  Think: there are far more foreigners coming to the US for an education than there are Americans fleeing overseas for studies.  There's a reason.

Maybe anyone here who really thinks American education is bad needs to consider brain surgery with a doctor that graduated in Botswana.

12 posted on 06/25/2013 2:02:28 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Good points.


13 posted on 06/25/2013 2:04:22 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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America still has the best engineering and science schools in the world.


14 posted on 06/25/2013 2:05:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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thanks!

[breathing into a paper bag...]


15 posted on 06/25/2013 2:09:02 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama; Oldeconomybuyer; edcoil; stephenjohnbanker; NotYourAverageDhimmi; Kay Ludlow
Maybe anyone here who really thinks American education is bad needs to consider brain surgery with a doctor that graduated in Botswana.

This article speaks to primary and highschool education, and says nothing regarding medical school.

I'd prefer to compare current highschool grads to those of say 50 or more years ago as we've seen spending skyrocket while grads are less and less prepared for college. Spending certainly isn't the answer, because spending increases have only gone to support the liberal indoctrination agenda that has been so diligently integrated into America's gov't school system.

America's gov't schools will be it's undoing... mark my words.
16 posted on 06/25/2013 2:11:02 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Fantastic post.

Give me a white board, some markers, a good curriculum and access to a decent library and I’ll give you a crop of excellent students. :)

Cost, probably in the neighbourhood of 12k a year. And I can teach 4, 5 classes. So, say, 100 students at 12k/ a year is about a hundred bucks per student. Double that for your building and debt costs and yer good to go.


17 posted on 06/25/2013 2:20:11 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: Sopater

Why is he hating on Botswana?

In a class of 600 doctors from yale, you know what you call the 600th - Doctor.

Maybe why there are so many deaths in hospitals in the US as well.


18 posted on 06/25/2013 2:21:00 PM PDT by edcoil (When given a choice, take both.)
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To: Sopater
This article speaks to primary and highschool education, and says nothing regarding medical school...

Actually it did, the article said--

...When researchers factored in the cost for programs after high school education such as college or vocational training, the United States spent...

--and Medical schooling is college level.  I take it you're not booking a flight to Gaborone International for brain surgery and that you do in fact have more respect for grads of  US universities.  Understand that the vast majority of these highly educated  people you respect did their pre college studies ALSO in the US.

19 posted on 06/25/2013 2:29:44 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
I take it you're not booking a flight to Gaborone International for brain surgery and that you do in fact have more respect for grads of US universities.

No, I'm good... I do have respect for graduates of US universities in many areas, but certainly not all areas, maybe not even "most".
20 posted on 06/25/2013 2:36:38 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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