Posted on 06/25/2013 7:53:51 AM PDT by kristinn
With the exception that the article is slightly softer on Martin than me (and only slightly), I think he has nailed the whole thing.
He has also nicely summed up why this is Z’s case to lose, and any competant attorney should be able to handle this with “half his brain tied behind his back.”
It wasn't his father's condo. It was his father's girlfriend's condo.
I agree with you that Martin provoked the fight. Or rather that he was worried that if the police were called, he would end up being kicked out of his father's girlfriend's condo, where he was living in VIOLATION OF RENTAL AGREEMENT. So, he took the immature and drug-addled action of trying to punch out Zimmerman so he couldn't call the police and so that he could escape.
One could IMAGINE that Trayvon's father had already admonished him NOT TO GET IN ANY TROUBLE OR HE'S OUT. That was 'likely' a CONDITION of Trayvon moving in that the 'girlfriend' has specified. If she didn't, then she would have to be a completely irresponsible person.
Not widely noted, but evidential in this context. George Zimmerman is Hispanic, while his (assailant? victim?) is of distinctly an American of African descent. This was a black-on-Latino encounter, and any element of race, if injected into the argument, really stirs the pot.
Street gang element? Not apparent, but this may be an underlying motive, a young black man trying to make his reputation among his peers - “I took down that (insert inappropriate epithet here), and slammed him good!”
Clearly, Trayvon must have had an “ah, S***!” moment just as the cold steel of the barrel of the pistol was thrust into his chest.
He tells witness 8 that somebody is following him.
IF he was scared and fearful for his life at THAT point, just go inside the apt. and lock the door.
Evidence shows he decided to confront the person who had been following him.
Really? Scared? Really?
I don’t doubt that when Z reached for his cell phone that would’ve been interpreted as a threatening move.
If the assumption was that Z was reaching for a knife or a gun.
T was itching for a fight. Too late when he decked Z only to learn that Z pulled out his gun and shot him to stop the deadly assault of head slamming into concrete. I think Z has said that T said something like, “you got me” before quickly dying.
It will be so easy to show that even witness 8 advised T not to try anything with the person who followed him, but that T was itching to confront him, did so, violently, and died for it.
Buildings? Let's get this right. These were houses. You walk close enough to my house to stay out of the rain, and I'll confront you myself.
Wouldn't that be:
Lil’ Trayvon©
I will remind you of how this started:
LITTLE TRAYVON: “You got a problem?”
MONSTER GEORGE: “No.”
LITTLE TRAYVON: “You do now.”
I don't. I think it was serious. Trayvon was already in TROUBLE, having been kicked out of his FAMILY HOME.
He was living at his father's girlfriend's RENTAL CONDO.
ONE MORE INCIDENT, and his father would likely had to have thrown him out. Where would Trayvon go then ? He might have to get a job and pay for his own living quarters. His solution? Violence.
Zimmerman was doing what neighborhood watch is supposed to do, watch suspicious people and report suspicious activity.
According to yesterday’s opening statements, Trayvon was about 70 yards from the rental condo where he was living, in violation of the rental agreement.
“Nobody has the right to try to administer a beat down on another person just because they looked at them. Even if they are stoned and not thinking”
Indeed.
Darned right!!
Thanks for the replies. It’s a larger layout than I would have guessed, but if Trayvon was shot 70 yards from his destination, he sure had the opportunity to ignore it all and just return there with his tea and Skittles.
What sort of 17 year-old seeks a confrontation with an older stranger rather than just getting out of the situation by returing to the place he was staying? But they’ll fight any evidence that portrays Trayvon accurately.
“Buildings? Let’s get this right. These were houses. You walk close enough to my house to stay out of the rain, and I’ll confront you myself. “
Insert here the Clint Eastwood “Get off my lawn” picture
(I would, but don’t know how).
You left something out...”BAM!”
And had Zimmerman displayed his firearm as he was replying "no", St. Trayvon would (probably) still be alive after fleeing like punks do.
I have a question. They are making much of Zimmerman calling the police on black “youth†previously. What was the racial make up of the neighborhood? And a second question. Did the robberies stop after St Tryvon of Martin behaved stupidly?
I stand corrected re: condo owner.
You make and interesting point — “ immature and drug-addled” — doesn’t need much more explanation, does it?
There were a bunch of “Helps!” in between.
All the what if’s and could have been shouldn’t really matter. The events before and after the fatal encounter may help to explain the confrontation but the point of legality is the physical encounter itself. Who initiated potentially fatal force that was met with successful deadly force? Who was on the offense and whom was on the defense? That should be the basis of this trial. Everything else is material for the media talking heads and race baiters.
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