Posted on 06/23/2013 1:03:12 AM PDT by kronos77
US whistleblower Edward Snowden is en route to Moscow from Hong Kong on an Aeroflot flight, reports AFP. Washington has filed an extradition order to the Hong Kong authorities on charges of espionage, theft and conversion of government property.
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The most wanted man in the world setting Obama and his admin on fire with his revelations with worldwide repercussions..and no one has walked by him with a needle to off him???
It’s just so surreal.
I still wonder how the CIA plays into this..as he used diplomatic cover during one of his escapades.
Part of me thinks there is much more to the story that what is on the surface ...
I would call most of Congress and definitely the pResident a traitor before I called Snowden one.
They are the ones responsible for creating and controlling these rogue agencies. They did NOTHING, they are complicit with the destruction of this country. They should be hung for their crimes.
Reports are coming through now that Snowden was met on the tarmac by the Venezuelans, who whisked him off in a car, presumably to the Venezuelan embassy in Moscow.
How is Snowden NOT working against Obama? How is he actively working against the US?
This is still our country! Spill your guts to a sporadic enemy of the US, you are a traitor!
Do you really believe Snowden has much more? I sure don't. I think this kid went into working with the NSA with an agenda in his head. His agenda has been fully exposed - it's all about "internet privacy" and the Government collecting information about each and every one of us - you and I included.
That's the extent of Snowden's "knowledge" or "information" at this point. That's all he's managed to expose.
Now, if Putin's bringing him to Russia with the expectation that Snowden has some super-secret intelligence that's going to give Russia the edge over the United States of America in intelligence gathering, then Vlad's in for a big case of disappointment.
Snowden doesn't have any "national secrets" of value to Russia, China or anyone else. If he did, he'd have been "disappeared" by now.
Everything that's going on now, shuffling Snowden between one rival of America to another is nothing more than an act of EMBARASSING the United States of America, and the sitting sock monkey, Barack Hussein Obama.
In short, it's an over-reaction to think that this punk Snowden has anything of real value to offer Russia, China, Venezuela, or any other country outside of the NSA's spying on us via social media.
You can take that to the bank.
bfl
We used to laugh and make fun of the Russians for putting up with what the IRS and NSA (and likely others) are doing to us now. My, times certainly have changed!
Been following your posts on this topic as yours is an opinion I've long respected here on FR.
I honestly don't think there's more to this than meets the eye. Snowden blew the lid off the NSA spying on you and I via the internet, social media, facebook, etc.. etc.. etc.. The NSA has HUGE data correlation capabilities, many of which make Hadoop pale by comparison.
Snowden's upset (rightfully so..) that our Government is spying on us, the very American's and Citizen's that the same Government is supposed to protect and in the process, leave us alone. (Not spy on us.)
I really think if Snowden had any "secrets" to our intelligence gathering capabilities, he'd have been "disappeared" by now.
If anything, our Government is trying to cover its tracks by making Snowden the bad guy - when the Government itself "is the bad guy." I think most people see through that facade.
Everything else that's transpired these last few weeks has been nothing less than an attempt to embarass America and specifically, AMERICANS for being so naieve that our Government would never spy on us. We accuse (rightly..) other Governments of spying on their citizens. China is a prime example of spying on its citizens via the internet. In the same breath, many American's defend our Government saying what China does could never happen here.
Guess what? It has. It started under Echelon during the Clinton Administration, grew under Bush and has mushroomed and been exposed under Obama.
PRISM isn't "new." IMO it's simply a maturation of technologies, information gathering processes, and data correlation technologies all brought together under a single program to monitor us.
No, I'm not paranoid. It's happening. If you're read anything I've posted since being here in 1998 I'm about the last person on FR who buys into conspiracy theories. On this topic, I happen to have some expertise on how the technologies the Government uses can be exploited to do the things they are.
Back to Snowden: at this point, he's nothing more than a tool for our Intel community rivals to embarass the USA. Those politicians who accuse Snowden of "treason" who should be "hanged" are doing nothing more than putting their thumb in our eyes in an attempt to blind us to what's really going on.
Sadly, some of those same politicians I had much respect and admiration for, but not anymore. Not now that they've exposed their true feelings towards you and I, the American People.
Respectfully,
USC.
I don’t know how Obama has done it, but he has: I’m actually rooting for the Russians these days.
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Ron Paul: Edward Snowden a Hero
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I’ll agree on this one. This unconstitutional spying on citizens crap must be shut down! Heads should roll!!
4 posted on Tue Jun 11 2013 17:53:08 GMT-0400 (EDT) by Jim Robinson
oops, you were just download into hundreds of NSA computers with that statement ;-)
but never fear..you were probably already there just because you post on FR
Russkies don’t like Muslims, at least the ones they cannot control....Obama is about encouraging Muslims that Moscow cannot control.
When Obummer stamps his feet and throws a snit and “demands” that Putin send Snowden to the US, the answer will be “go pound sand”. Obummer will, once again, look like what he is ... a total ninny. Actually, Obummer will probably like that answer .... give him visions of sandtraps on golf courses and he’ll be off in a flash for another round.
He had 4 laptops and who knows how many portable drives. China and Russia gets it all. Their Satellite in S.A secures him for now.
Doubt his final destination is Iceland. Someone offered to fly him to Iceland if they would grant him asylum. Looks like Iceland doesn’t want him.
“Guess what? It has. It started under Echelon during the Clinton Administration, grew under Bush and has mushroomed and been exposed under Obama.”
Echelon was started during the Truman years and has probably evolved to what we are seeing and hearing.
bfl ?!? brothers for life ? Best Friend for Life ? Banned for Life ? .....
Which one of those reporters is the American assassin? lol
“Oh really. And running to Russia, that paragon of God-given rights and the US’s steadfast friend /sarc with our secrets is heroic to you?”
heroic? your word. I simply said he wasn’t a traitor. Even in this age of exaggeration and hyperbole and excessive use of the “hero” moniker you cannot legitimately make that extrapolation with what I said.
What the NSA is doing to honest, hardworking, taxpaying Americans is a threat to the Constitution, and God-given freedoms we hold dear.
Can I infer that you find that the sort of colonoscopic scrutiny practiced by our government through the NSA on every American is somehow “OK” with you?
What does it tell you that we have had only ONE person speak out about this travesty of freedom? That tells me that we have a whole lot of mentally deranged Americans in our intelligence apparatus who do not understand what being and “American” is supposed to be all about.
“Are you out of your mind?”
Indeed. I pose that same question to you.
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