Posted on 06/22/2013 9:13:12 AM PDT by maggief
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican Party's road map for winning presidential elections looks hazier than ever as GOP lawmakers and others reject what many considered obvious lessons from Mitt Romney's loss last year.
House Republicans are rebelling against the key recommendation of a party-sanctioned post-mortem: embrace "comprehensive immigration reform" or suffer crippling losses among Hispanic voters in 2016 and beyond.
Widespread rejection of warnings from establishment Republicans goes beyond that, however. Many activists say the party simply needs to articulate its conservative principles more skillfully, without modifying any policies, even after losing the popular vote in five of the past six presidential elections.
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Their 2016 strategy is the same as their 2008 and 2012 strategy: “Keep doing the banksters’ bidding and hope that they and their media puppets decide that this time it’s Our Turn.”
I don't know who the heck this Steve Lombardo is, but to call repealing Obamacare "not salient to a wide swath of Americans" is just plain moronic. Has he seen any public opinion polls where a majority of Americans don't want Obamacare repealed? Does Lombardo have to be reminded that if Obamacare is not repealed, his life, just like anyone else's, could hinge on the whims of a government death panel?
Sure as hell sounds salient to anyone who doesn't want to die unnecessarily at the hands of a government bureaucracy. Or, for example, who doesn't want to pay unnecessarily high premiums for mandatory one-size-fits-all coverage that he wouldn't otherwise want, or that his employer would have provided him except for the high expense. Or who doesn't want to be laid off because his employer can't afford his mandated coverages.
Repeal not salient? Only to fools like Lombardo, not to a wide swath of Americans.
You mean like the 31% George H.W. Bush got a mere 2 years after the LAST amnesty? What a reward!
Regardless of what we post, the Reince Priebus GOP-E machinery of the GOP in Washington and many of the states is very focused on notions of reaching Hispanics, black voters etc......
1. You do not “win’ by allowing opportunists who want your support to persuade you to abandon the principles that originally drew you to the contest. Those Republicans who urge this course clearly prove that principles are not part of their arsenal.
I do like this point. It also made me think i wouldn’t want to vote for someone who runs on a false plank in order to win. as in a wink and a nod and just pull the lever for me and in the end i’ll be whatever you need.
I wonder if anyone every said “In order to defeat the Nazis, we must BECOME the Nazis.”
The Asian vote is out there. The Asians are more apt to be main stream Americans even if they are living in the local “China town.”
The biggest problem is,and i live in NYC so i do have more than a hint, is the older more reliable voters will fall in line and in the big cities the dems have their handful of go to guys in those communities. I think this is typical Republican stupidity. They don’t even try to get that vote. That 30 % is more of a base than anything else.
“You mean like the 31% George H.W. Bush got a mere 2 years after the LAST amnesty? What a reward!”
Bravo!!!! That is an absolute home run of a point you made there! Anti-amnesty conservatives need to push that one wire to wire!
That must mean [Graham is] planning to come out of the closet.
LOL!!!
He will run, and he will win.
It hasn't been articulated or implemented in the first place so what does this have to do with winning or losing the popular vote in five of the past six presidential elections? In addition, Bush did not win in a huge landslide for re-election due to a very poor first debate performance...likely lost the popular vote the first time around due to the 11th hour revealing of his DUI from decades prior...that has nothing to do with "conservative principles" or the need to change any policy. Bill Clinton won due to co-opting the conservative message and triangulating - "The Era of Big Government is Over", signing welfare reform into law, etc. I remember CNN and news organizations reporting during the 1996 that liberalism in the Democrat party was dying off and it was now a conservative party (Wolf Blitzer I specifically recall saying this) - when showing Jesse Jackson speaking in a news segment the reporter said "a speaker from the dying liberal wing in the party." This was nonsense, of course, but it is what the narrative was going into the election. Dole attacked Clinton as being a liberal - which he was quick to deny. McCain / Palin were on track to win but for the news of the financial collapse coming along at just the right time, and last year the media's narrative was about Romney and Bain Capital - not conservative ideas. This article is nonsensical...but they and the "establishment Republicans" are trying to make it a reality but using it create a false narrative - that conservative policies (freedom, liberty, fiscal responsibility, national security, secure borders, etc.) are anti-Hispanic. It's all nonsense. Our policies are correct - we have Europe to prove adopting left wing policies not only does not work but indeed causes collapse - people rioting in the streets in France over raising the retirement age from 60 to 62 as an example.
Right - this makes no sense. The Democrats and the left-wing media want policies pushed through that will help Republicans?
With the GOP-e running the Republican Party, they will be lucky to maintain current quotas in the Congress. The WH will remain out of reach until they swerve back to the right or are replaced by a party that caters to genuine conservatism.
Currently, it appears that Rinse Prebus has pre-selected Jeb Bush to be the GOP POTUS candidate in '16 and, as most of us know, Jeb Bush, or ANY Bush for that matter, is a non-starter.
Yes there’s been a lot of “Concern Trolls” on the left with advise for the Republicans.
It’s like the Chicago Bears taking advise from the Green bay Packers.
Are we not as threatened by big government's coercive power as were the American colonists in 1776 under King George III?
This Administration's overreaching arm of redistribution of the fruits of our labor, intrusion into our most private communications without due cause, including the upcoming mandates concerning our health, has brought today's citizens to a place where, as in 1776, a passion for liberty should be the motivating factor in their decisions about a leader who will allow himself and encourage his fellows in the Senate and House to be "bound down" (Jefferson) by the Constitution already in existence.
Now, why can't some so-called "Republican" emerge who finds it as easy to repeat the principles as did Madison, Jefferson, Adams, and the rest of our founding heroes?
"...there have always been those who wish to enlarge the powers of the General Government. There is but one safe rule...confine (it) within the sphere of its appropriate duties. It has no power to raise a revenue or impose taxes except for the purposes enumerated in the Constitution....Every attempt to exercise power beyond these limits should be promptly and firmly opposed." - Andrew Jackson's Valedictory"...experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government), those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny; and it is believed that the most effectual means of preventing this would be, to illuminate...the minds of the people...to give them knowledge of those facts, which history exhibiteth. History, by apprizing them of the past, will enable them to judge of the future...it will qualify them as judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views...." - Jefferson's Bill for the more general diffusion of knowledge for Virginia
"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant--they have been cheated; asleep--they have been surprised; divided--the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson?...the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it....It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." - James Madison
"These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and the blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety." - Thomas Jefferson-First Inaugural Statement of Principles of Good Government
By the Founders' formula, "the People's" written Constitution was the anchor of our liberties, binding government to the "People's" limitations on its power.
The "progressive" regressives' philosophy, in effect, undoes all the monumental work accomplished by the Founders on behalf of liberty and leaves the law afloat and without anchor, relying, as of old, on mere men and women.
From Page xv of "Our Ageless Constitution," allow me to include here excerpted words from President Andrew Jackson's Proclamation of December 10, 1832:
"We have received it [the Constitution] as the work of the assembled wisdom of the nation. We have trusted to it as to the sheet anchor of our safety in the stormy times of conflict with a foreign or domestic foe. We have looked to it with sacred awe as the palladium of our liberties, and with all the solemnities of religion have pledged to each other our lives and fortunes here and our hopes of happiness hereafter in its defense and support. Were we mistaken, my countrymen, in attaching this importance to the Constitution . . .? No. We were not mistaken. The letter of this great instrument is free from this radical fault. . . . No, we did not err! . . . The sages . . . have given us a practical and, as they hoped, a permanent* Constitutional compact. . . . The Constitution is still the object of our reverence, the bond of our Union, our defense in danger, the source of our prosperity in peace: it shall descend, as we have received it, uncorrupted by sophistical construction, to our posterity. . . ."
*Underlining added for emphasis
And, it was Thomas Jefferson who used another metaphor with reference to the Constitution when he indicated that "the People" must "bind them (government) by the chains of the Constitution." In another instance, he declared: "It was intended to lace them up straitly within the enumerated powers. . . ."
To the Framers of America's Constitution for structuring and limiting the powers of individuals in government, the "passion" clearly was for liberty.
Petty tyrants fear the dissemination of knowledge among "the People." Could that fear account for the use of the strong arm of the IRS against the citizens whom they perceived to most in possession of knowledge of their rights?
Obama’s approval rating is down again! What a great Summer! If Obama’a approval rating keeps falling, pretty soon, even his dog is going to bite him.
Well, it turns out, Lindsay, that the numbers of the votes cast by all three of these groups in the presidential election of 2012 actually didn't change very much from 2008, according to polling results (most of which, BTW, are the product of pro-'Rat polling organizations).
And it turns out that the Hispanics who vote 'Rat do so much more commonly for the goodies they receive from Big Brother rather than 'Rat immigration policies as opposed to the GOP's.
So if you enable illegal alien Hispanics a pathway to citizenship so as to vote in the future in masses, they will undoubtedly hurt the GOP's presidential chances even more in the future, simply because the 'rats are the party of handouts, not because the 'Rats are the party of open borders.
It's amazing how so many RINOs are fed phony statistics and ideas by the consulting class.
BTW, if a large Hispanic voting block means automatic defeat for Republicans unless the GOP supports amnesty for illegals, can these consultants explain how the GOP is so successful in statewide races in Texas, whose population is a whopping 37.6% Hispanic? Apparently, the GOP in Texas is fairly successful in getting Hispanic votes without favoring a pathway to citizenship for illegals.
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