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Judge bars audio experts from George Zimmerman trial who say screams were not Zimmerman
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 6/22/13 | By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner

Posted on 06/22/2013 7:39:32 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001

In a major victory for murder suspect George Zimmerman, a judge today ruled that prosecutors may not put on the witness stand two state audio experts who say the voice heard screaming in the background of a 911 call was someone other than Zimmerman.

The judge had heard three days of testimony about the science used by the state's experts and ruled that it failed to meet Florida's legal standard.

One of the experts, Alan R. Reich, had concluded the voice he identified as Trayvon is heard yelling "I'm begging you" and "stop." The other, Tom Owen, says he ruled Zimmerman out as the screamer with biometric software.

Both are now banned.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: fraud; martin; sanford; zimmerman
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1 posted on 06/22/2013 7:39:32 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

I guest that this is “kinda” “Good News” for the truth.


2 posted on 06/22/2013 7:41:10 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Is this a good thing? I thought the ‘experts’ thought it was Z screaming, is that now out as well?


3 posted on 06/22/2013 7:41:13 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Was Trayvon screaming this while bashing Zimmermans face in?


4 posted on 06/22/2013 7:41:20 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

Why of course according to these two nimrods.

Note, you don’t see that pointed out do you.


5 posted on 06/22/2013 7:42:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kennedy: Today I am a Berliner / Reagan: Gorbachev tear down this wall / Obama: I can't read this...)
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To: Lx

I really don’t know how good this is; I just posted it but haven’t read the entire article yet. If ALL experts are out, it’s a bad thing. If just the 2 sheisters are out it’s probably good.


6 posted on 06/22/2013 7:45:26 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

I think the judge is protecting the prosecution from itself. The next question is whether the judge is going to allow any expert witnesses using approved methods and having higher credibility who say it is Zimmerman.


7 posted on 06/22/2013 7:47:17 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

I have to nitpick that headline. At this point the witnesses the state wanted to use can hardly be called “experts”. That was the problem. They are not.


8 posted on 06/22/2013 7:49:50 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: spacejunkie2001

At first blush this seems to be a much needed victory for Zimmerman.


9 posted on 06/22/2013 7:50:59 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: tacticalogic
Another Freeper posted a link somewhere to the credentials of these self-appointed experts.

To say they deserve the title of expert about as much as Paul Krugman deserves a Nobel Prize in economics would be an understatement.

10 posted on 06/22/2013 7:51:07 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Okay, just read it. Looks good for GZ on this issue. Myriad others have gone against him with this shark-eyed judge.


11 posted on 06/22/2013 7:52:17 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: tacticalogic

Good question. I wonder if the defense has to bring their people forward to be qualified as experts yet. If not, the defense might want to wait. The prosecution has very little to go on, particularly now.


12 posted on 06/22/2013 7:52:27 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: spacejunkie2001

It is going to be very hard for the prosecutor to construct a plausible scenario in which that is Martin’s voice on the tape.

In fact, I know everyone thinks that Zimmerman is being railroaded. And no doubt there are many in the press and the race-baiting black grievance industry, and probably including the judge, who want that to happen.

But unless there is stunning new surprise evidence that materially changes the picture that has emerged from the reported evidence — notably the angle of the bullet into Martin’s body, and the wounds on Zimmerman’s face and head, I don’t really see how Zimmerman gets convicted.

I don’t necessarily have faith in our justice system, but there is nothing plausible about the prosecution story that Zimmerman hunted down Martin and shot him, and that Zimmerman was not defending himself.


13 posted on 06/22/2013 7:54:38 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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The ORDER EXCLUDING THE OPINION TESTIMONY OF MR. OWEN AND DR. REICH

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0613/order_excluding.pdf


14 posted on 06/22/2013 8:00:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: spacejunkie2001

One of the experts, Alan R. Reich, had concluded the voice he identified as Trayvon is heard yelling “I’m begging you” and “stop.”

Reich must have grown up with the Sergeant Pepper album(i think that was the one) and believes one song played backwards said,”Paul is dead”.


15 posted on 06/22/2013 8:00:22 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: tacticalogic

I believe the “new and improved method” was shown to be inconclusive aka reasonably doubtful.


16 posted on 06/22/2013 8:01:45 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Uncle Chip; 2ndDivisionVet; MinuteGal

Woo hoo!


17 posted on 06/22/2013 8:01:49 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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18 posted on 06/22/2013 8:01:52 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Lx

The state’s thinly credentialed experts said it was Trayvon, but O’Mara brought in some real experts who poked all kinds of holes in their claims and their methods and frankly made them look ridiculous. The real experts didn’t say it was Z, just that there’s no way to determine identity from a single short scream recorded by a cellphone using audio analysis. The judge apparently found them persuasive.


20 posted on 06/22/2013 8:04:50 AM PDT by Yardstick
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