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TWA Flight 800 investigators break silence in new documentary, claim original conclusion about cause
Fox ^ | 6/18/13

Posted on 06/18/2013 5:51:17 PM PDT by workerbee

A group of whistleblowers, including a number of aviation experts, have come forward in a new documentary to claim that the official explanation for the crash of TWA Flight 800 was wrong and a gas tank explosion did not bring down the flight off the coast of Long Island 17 years ago.

However, the six whistleblowers, all part of the original investigation team, stopped short of saying the plane was shot down.

Flight 800, a Boeing 747, had just taken off from JFK airport with 230 people aboard on July 17, 1996 enroute to Paris when it exploded and crashed off the coast of nearby East Moriches, Long Island, killing everyone on the plane.

“..This team of investigators who actually handled the wreckage and victims’ bodies, prove that the officially proposed fuel-air explosion did not cause the crash,” reads a statement by the producers of the film, which will debut on cable network EPIX next month. “They also provide radar and forensic evidence proving that one or more ordinance explosions outside the aircraft caused the crash.” However, the statement said they did not speculate about the source or sources of any ordinance explosions.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: facepalm; terrorism; tinfoilhat; twa800
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To: Little Ray
...somebody would have claimed credit.

They did.................

181 posted on 06/19/2013 6:33:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: driftdiver
Same with the plane that went down in NY shortly after 9/11.

That plane, IIRC, had a stripped gear mechanism that jammed the rudder full one side.............

182 posted on 06/19/2013 6:41:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Black Agnes

Yeah, it was a typical Clinton and/or democrat/communist/socialist/progressive cover-up.They think we don’t get it... How he is still walking around and is not in jail (along with his “wife”) I will never really fathom. The treason is clear...


183 posted on 06/19/2013 6:53:09 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: LaRueLaDue

Well, the ‘01 plane that crashed due to loss of its tail section from ‘wake turbulence’ happened during Bush’s first term.


184 posted on 06/19/2013 7:07:57 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Thank you for your response. I already know. I was just letting someone else have the opportunity to provide the proof. It was rocket propellant.


185 posted on 06/19/2013 7:19:40 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: DHerion
So hundreds of crewmen who were part of the exercise never talked?

First, only a few knew it happened. Unless you are assuming that all the ships crew on each ship were all standing on the topdeck with binoculars just 'watching the show'. I assure you, that is not the case.

Second, this movie, this article are proof that after YEARS OF KEEPING SILENT, some people are now TALKING.

So it isn't ridiculous, is it ?

186 posted on 06/19/2013 7:25:19 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: cherry
I read or heard that right after the twa explosion that the Toon signed an executive order prohibiting whistle blower protection for Navy Seals...who were the ones searching for debris in the ocean....

I remember that as well.

187 posted on 06/19/2013 7:26:46 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

I followed that whole case closely. I was local at the time and it was news every day for a while. My hubby and I both had college level physics and passed it. The official explanation was laughable.


188 posted on 06/19/2013 7:26:56 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Swordmaker
The bolide hypothesis, is, ahem, shot down.

Which is why I said the 'likeliest'. It was the simplest, and didn't even require human error. It appeared to fit some of the facts. But not all of the facts.

That is what is so great about F.R. One person can't know 'everything' but thousands of people can. You provided information which would seem to exclude the bolide theory. So... the discussion continues and we all know more today than we did yesterday. Everyone wins.

189 posted on 06/19/2013 7:34:48 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Rocky

Where was Louis Freeh in all that. He’s been the bagman in these investigations for 20 years. Including, lately, the Sandusky investigation.


190 posted on 06/19/2013 7:39:13 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: UCANSEE2
Why? They made the extra effort to deal with Flight 800 because of the 'it's a missile' crowd!

Although it's rare for a meteor to hit a plane, they've been known to hit houses and cars. We had one hit a dentist's office nearby a couple of years back. The belief this doesn't happen, that we don't have rocks falling from the sky, is still around in some quarters. But I have a clue for those quarters, the Earth is round, it's in space, things traveling parallel to the ground are coming up on your left, right, front and back ~ and sometimes they drop out of orbit.

191 posted on 06/19/2013 7:43:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Black Agnes
I followed that whole case closely.

I bet that those posting on this thread, did as well. Some of them were posting on FR on the TWA800 threads back then. As is the case with the 'emotional' subjects like 'government conspiracy' and 'religion', it was like a civil war between opposing factions. It was almost the same as the recent CHINESE MISSILE or JET AIRLINER (carefully edited and designed) video that was paraded in front of the public because of the 'government conspiracy' that was taking place at the time. There were two sides and they both 'knew' they were right, and were ready to kill (figuratively) anyone who disagreed.

My hubby and I both had college level physics and passed it.

Excellent. My estimation is that at least half the posters on F.R. have had college level physics. When 'we' put our heads together, we are an awesome force.

The official explanation was laughable.

The official explanation was a crime.

192 posted on 06/19/2013 7:52:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: RayChuang88
I'm still not buying those conspiracy theories about terrorists involved in the destruction of TWA Flight 800 for these reasons: 1. Do we have explosives chemical residue from any of the wreckage consistent with a bomb going off? Both C4 and Semtex plastique explosives leave behind a distinctive chemical residue after the explosion.

Yes, both c4 and semtex residue were found in the fuselage. It is documented in the final NTSB report. They conclude they were brought aboard by bomb sniffing dogs prior to the flight. This has been debunked. This new documentary should cover this hopefully.

193 posted on 06/19/2013 7:55:56 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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To: w1andsodidwe; workerbee

My father worked at TWA. In the main repair/maintenance facility. Everyone at TWA knew it was a lie. Where is TWA and all it’s employee’s now?


194 posted on 06/19/2013 7:57:21 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: FreedomPoster
IIRC, the debris field also indicated a missile.

The missile also indicated it was a missile, but those who recovered it cannot speak a word of it.

195 posted on 06/19/2013 8:01:27 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Placemarker ... those holding that secret are more honorable than the ones it covers for. We may yet have an eyewitness to the missile recovery who will speak out, because that is in the end the more honorable thing to do as a member of We The People.


196 posted on 06/19/2013 8:07:17 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: rickmichaels
July 17, 1996 - The very same day John Joubert was executed in Nebraska. Not related of course. I just remember the date.

I remember this day pretty clearly. I was coming home from a 2 week excursion to Italy with some high school classmates. I was flying TWA from Rome to JFK and then JFK to Washington National. My flight took off from JFK right before 800 and landed in DC without incident. But our parents were freaking out at the airport when we arrived, thinking that our plane was the one that blew up. I thought my parents just really missed me.

197 posted on 06/19/2013 8:15:40 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: muawiyah
They made the extra effort to deal with Flight 800 because of the 'it's a missile' crowd!

You mean the hundreds of eye witnesses, or the crowd on FR, or the engineers and mechanics at TWA, or the people who took video and had their entire CAMERA taken ?

Although it's rare for a meteor to hit a plane,

Actually, it's impossible. Now.. bolides and meteorites could strike a plane. Meteorites (albeit very small ones) strike planes all the time.

The belief this doesn't happen, that we don't have rocks falling from the sky, is still around in some quarters.

Had a 40 year old female 'friend'. She told me that meteorites (aka Shooting Stars) were STARS that fell from the sky, and that's why we can't see as many STARS in the SKY as we used to.

But I have a clue for those quarters, the Earth is round

It only look round from far away. An optical illusion. It isn't round, it's shape changes with the procession of the moon, and up close it's just undescribable, especially where it gets hit by rocks falling out of the sky.

NOW... back to your theory. The bolide would have to have a certain mass for it to work. Too small, it wouldn't have caused the plane to crash. Too big, it would have vaporized the plane. It would have to be like Goldilocks and the Three Bears "just the right size".

Next, there would have been multiple 'explosions' in the form of what sounded like semi-auto cannons going off. Do you remember the recent METEORITE coming down over RUSSIA? I listened to one of the best 'soundtracks' of the meteorite. The 'bangs' going off before the final BOOM were like the gunfire in a RAMBO movie. In the TWA800 case, I don't remember any reports of multiple shockwave type noises, or of large 'variations' in the brightness of the object(missile).

198 posted on 06/19/2013 8:26:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: muawiyah
They made the extra effort to deal with Flight 800 because of the 'it's a missile' crowd!

You mean the hundreds of eye witnesses, or the crowd on FR, or the engineers and mechanics at TWA, or the people who took video and had their entire CAMERA taken ?

Although it's rare for a meteor to hit a plane,

Actually, it's impossible. Now.. bolides and meteorites could strike a plane. Meteorites (albeit very small ones) strike planes all the time.

The belief this doesn't happen, that we don't have rocks falling from the sky, is still around in some quarters.

Had a 40 year old female 'friend'. She told me that meteorites (aka Shooting Stars) were STARS that fell from the sky, and that's why we can't see as many STARS in the SKY as we used to.

But I have a clue for those quarters, the Earth is round

It only look round from far away. An optical illusion. It isn't round, it's shape changes with the procession of the moon, and up close it's just undescribable, especially where it gets hit by rocks falling out of the sky.

NOW... back to your theory. The bolide would have to have a certain mass for it to work. Too small, it wouldn't have caused the plane to crash. Too big, it would have vaporized the plane. It would have to be like Goldilocks and the Three Bears "just the right size".

Next, there would have been multiple 'explosions' in the form of what sounded like semi-auto cannons going off. Do you remember the recent METEORITE coming down over RUSSIA? I listened to one of the best 'soundtracks' of the meteorite. The 'bangs' going off before the final BOOM were like the gunfire in a RAMBO movie. In the TWA800 case, I don't remember any reports of multiple shockwave type noises, or of large 'variations' in the brightness of the object(missile).

199 posted on 06/19/2013 8:26:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: MHGinTN

Quite correct. It’s not those who are sworn to secrecy (and they may know the real reason, whereas we do not) and are loyal to their oath, it’s those who ordered them sworn to secrecy and provided the ‘coverup’.


200 posted on 06/19/2013 9:04:40 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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