Posted on 06/16/2013 7:31:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
According to new details leaked to The Guardian (UK) by NSA leaker Edward Snowden, American and British intelligence directed snooping efforts against internet and phone data from foreign officials at the G20 in 2009. According to the documents, which were created by the NSA and handed over to the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev’s phone calls were bugged, and emails and calls from other delegates’ phones were monitored as well.
Fake internet cafes were created to grab keystrokes from attendees. Forty-five analysts were given round-the-clock updates on who was calling whom at the summit. The Turkish finance ministers and others in his party were targeted as well.....
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
There are 100 more Snowdens waiting in the wings.
???? internet cafes
If they email sensitive stuff from unsecured lines without encryption then they deserve what they get.
Phone calls are a bit harder to protect than emails but they are also more of a pain to save and search through, a human has to take the time to listen to them.
Uhn huh. Guess Snowjob and I saw the same movie.
Sounds like an episode I saw on Strikeback I think
1. How is this different than when the Soviets built the US Embassy in Moscow that was never occupied because it was riddled with secret spy devices? This has been going on since Sun Tzu's day.
2. Why was Obama not better at taking what he learned from the spying and using it to the USA's advantage?
-PJ
Who said he wanted to use it to our advantage?
-PJ
No, the 2009 G20 meeting wasn’t in Pittsburgh. It was in London, England. It was the GCHQ not the NSA who did the spying.
The governments of Russia and the US do not need to spy on each other any more.
No real military competition.
US is WIDE OPEN in terms of business or defense contractor spying. People can easily come to America, then can get a job and spy away. If 1st generation can’t get the job, the second can.
You certainly don’t need to sneak around taking photos any more - there’s google maps.
The militaries of the world have all been studying each other for years and pretty much know each other’s capabilities and tactics as much as they’re smart enough to admit what is in front of their face.
I think middle eastern militaries are very “familiar” with the US military right now and vice versa. The major powers all know each other’s capabilities rather well, been studying them for years.
The real spying that foreigners do in America is actually influencing elections and politicians. The real spying America does in foreign countries is not really spying; it’s the financial oligarchy, and all of its “tools”, like US intelligence, that are toppling governments to advance one world government. The people leading the US government itself - BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES - have no agenda other than that of the people they really work for, new world order, one world government.
And in toppling all these governments, they use NGOs to get control of the leaders of the target nation’s society. The NGOs don’t need to monitor the target people’s phones, please. They make friends with them, promise them they’ll have a wonderful life as a nwo minion, and the targets just start carrying out NWO’s agenda.
All this snooping machinery is to a) listen in on foreign calls to provide some fun and excitement to put into NIEs for whoever occupies the WH (so the machinery appears to have some vital purpose) and b) do real spy work on American citizens who would resist new world order so they can be marginalized or eliminated when the time comes and c) strike fear into the rest once the time comes so they continue to submit.
There were meetings in both Pittsbugh and London in 2009, and brietbart.com thought saying “G20” was good enough.
Well, I’m sure that world leaders hop to public WiFi cafes and tweet state secrets over their iPhones and Android tablets. Everyone does that, right?
So what did this 'kid' think the NSA does? If not spy on Russia, China, etc., then who? Is he that naive? Is there something else going on? Or is he just friggen stupid?
Sheesh, I wonder if Snowden is even aware that the KGB bugged the US Embassy in Moscow and this stuff is sop.
They accidentally picked up Medvedev’s top secret phone calls while they were accidentally intercepting innocent Americans communications. Oops.
I see your point but I am guessing the “internet cafes” were more like internet kiosks provided in the convention hall.
I would only be surprised if Medvedev was surprised.
Last week some FR people were saying he was a great hero.
I was one of them, and as it relates to spying on U. S. Citizens, I think he did us a service.
When he starts revealing clandestine operations overseas, he’s on his own. I won’t support that.
I should clarify that though. If it’s listening to foreign government officials, I’ll buy off on it. If we’re involved in spying on Germans so they can spy on our citizens, and then swap information, I most certainly don’t support it.
The only secret Obama know’s (or wants) to keep is his REAL birth certificate, and his college records.
the only way Snowden isn’t a treasonous bastard like Bradley Manning is if the obama administration had intended to act against law abiding American citizens, such as unlawfully imprisoning or preventing the exercise of rights. The IRS scandal may be proof enough for that, but that has nothing to do with the NSA or keeping records. All three are treasonous bastards and should be dealt with accordingly.
It actually depends..., for me.
If Snowden had revealed spying on U. S. Citizens and revealed documents to prove it, I’ve got no problem with him.
When he reveals our clandestine operations on foreign soil, and drops documents to prove it, I think it very well may be treason.
I don’t have a problem with any government agency grabbing some isolated phone calls to stop terrorism. Even an after the fact explanation documentation is fine with me.
What I object to, is broad spying on U. S. citizens as a course of action. I object to this.
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