Posted on 06/16/2013 7:21:33 PM PDT by presidio9
Edited on 06/16/2013 7:34:29 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Earlier this month, the Pew Research Center published results of a public survey of gay tolerance in 39 countries worldwide. The numbers are fairly unsurprising: While a high proportion of respondents in Western Europe and North America answered "yes" to the question "Should society accept homosexuality?" few respondents in the Middle East and Africa agreed with them.
Among the least tolerant nations surveyed was Pakistan, where only 2 percent of those surveyed said society should accept homosexuality. That statistic might be unsurprising, considering that gay sex is illegal under the Pakistani penal code. But what is surprising is how those views compare to Pakistani search traffic around gay-porn-related terms.
As of this writing, Pakistan is by volume the world leader for Google searches of the terms "shemale sex," "teen anal sex," and "man [snip] man," according to Google Trends. Pakistan also ranks second in the world (after similarly gay-intolerant Kenya) for volume of searches for the search term "gay sex pics."
In its report, Pew noted that countries exhibiting the highest levels of gay tolerance are largely secular, whereas nations where religion is central to public lifesuch as Egypt, Nigeria, and Pakistantend to reject homosexuality. But in Pakistan, what's even more peculiar is that the highest number of hits for some of these terms, including "shemale sex," come not from Pakistan's cosmopolitan centers, but from Peshawar, a bastion of conservative Islam, lately known in the West as a counterterrorism frontline.
Farahnaz Ispahani, an expert in Pakistani minorities at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and a former member of Pakistan's parliament, says that homosexuality is a taboo subject throughout the country. In major cities such as Lahore and Karachi, gays can develop a network of allies outside their tribe or family, but in conservative Peshawar, gay identity is more complicated. Part of the popularity of gay porn could stem from the fact that even highly observant Muslim males often have physical relationships with men without considering themselves gay, she says.
"The real love they can have that most of us find with a partner, they find with men," Ispahani says. "They mostly see their wives as the mother of their children."
At the same time, she says, persecution of minorities, including gays, has reached an all-time high in Pakistan, and discussing homosexuality openly in public is virtually forbidden. "Religious extremism is at a height today," she says. "Hindus are being forced to convert, Christians are being burned alivethere's very little personal safety for those seen as 'the other.' So what do [gay Pakistanis] do? They turn to pornography because they can't live their lives openly."
Shereen El Feki, author of the recent book Sex and the Citadel: Intimate Life in a Changing Arab World, says the discrepancy between perceptions around homosexuality and its apparent reality in Pakistan is consistent with her own findings in the Middle East, where, in recent years, the dialogue around sexual identity has been co-opted by fundamentalist clerics.
"Islamic conservatives, whether they're actually in power or the governments in power are trying to placate them, they will tend to go to very narrow definitions of Islam," she says. "One of the easiest ways to do this is to come down hard on the role of women, and particularly around sex and homosexuality."
Long before the rise of Islamic conservatism, El Feki says, the Middle East and India had a literary tradition that celebrated gay love, but in recent years, that openness has been forgotten.
"You find in most civilizations in the Global South a much more open approach to homosexualityirrespective of its status in religious and theological doctrinethan you find today," she says. "So very often, any attempt to open a dialogue in the Arab region is branded as some 'Western conspiracy' to undermine traditional Arab and Muslim values. The reality is that long before the West was talking openly about homosexuality, Arabs in particular were writing about this very frankly. Our history has come to be rewritten by Islamic conservatives."
I’ve heard that many Middle Eastern male babies use as their first spoken phrase “I love ewe.”
Groucho isn’t wearing sox.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0003.html
The URL is Dennis Prager's explanation and history of the phenomenon and why it is Judeo Christian societies that have prospered in the West and others have not.
Must be a huge SEC office over there.
However, I will offer a non-professional psychological opinion on why Pakistanis like gay porn.
Homosexuality has a lot of narcissism in it. Muslim has a lot of misogyny in it.
When you hate women because you love yourself, that spells gay porn to me.
As Ive said before two normal guys just dont sit on a couch like that - even if there is junk piled on the end.
You are 100% correct.
Its going to come to war yet.
What do you mean "yet"?
They don't call it "the oldest profession" for nothing.
Bm
You’re right. Islam is at war with us “infidels” (and has been for fourteen centuries) but most of us would rather pretend that’s not so. That photo sends millions of the world’s muzzies into obscene ecstasies every September 11th.
I guess I mean “war” as when the day arrives in America that a muzzie feels fear the way a Jew in Pakistan would. When we “kaffirs” make the muzzies in our midst so uncomfortable that they go back to where they came from. When they look an “infidel” in the eye & see raw hatred glaring back at them.
The current regime is determined to prevent that, however.
A rhetorical thread?
OK so it took me four days to open this thread. No comment.
I see.
I see very clearly...
Revolted placemark.
Homosexuals were not sent to the gas chambers at all. They were never targeted for extinction. Read “The Pink Swastika” for the facts about Naxis and homosexuality. Many of the homosexuals sent to camps were not homos at all, but were political oppoennts arrested under their law agsinst homosexuality, which was rarely enforced, since so man of the head and other Nazis, especially those under Ernst Roehm, were homosexual. In fact Germans used to call Hitler Jugend “Homo Jugend”.
Yes, the Hitler Youth were very special. And there’s not much about the Nazi movement that didn’t have to be falsified by the Communists who defined them and wrote the history.
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