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Pennsylvania Mulls Eliminating Registration Stickers
CBS Philly ^ | June 16, 2013 6:30 AM | Tony Romeo

Posted on 06/16/2013 8:56:46 AM PDT by Olog-hai

The secretary of PennDOT says he’s confident there won’t be any problems if vehicle registration stickers are eliminated in Pennsylvania. …

Some lawmakers expressed concern that such a move could result in lax enforcement, prompting people not to register their vehicles. …

(Excerpt) Read more at philadelphia.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: carregistration; motorvehicles; onlineregistration; paregistration; penndot; pennsylvania; regstickers
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1 posted on 06/16/2013 8:56:46 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
It used to be that I'd send them money and they'd send me a shiny new sticker.

Now I send them money and get nothing back in return. Hmmmm, come to think of it, that's sorta like taxes...

2 posted on 06/16/2013 9:01:03 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

Apparently they want to make it so that you can print your own registration credential on your home computer. Another blow to the poor, embattled, over-pensioned USPS (oof) . . .


3 posted on 06/16/2013 9:04:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They just run your plates. Picks up many more infractions than just expired registration.

I’ve been pulled over, repeatedly, even with all registrations and inspections current, because some woman in Fort Worth has multiple warrants out and an idiot entered her license tag # wrong into law enforcement database.

Apparently they run plate #s repeatedly. I just carry info about the old gal in my car, and it’s obvious to the officer that I don’t fit her age, ethnicity, or description.

The bureaucrats refuse to correct the typo, so my only recourse is to buy new plates, which I will not do. So we keep playing the same game, and I always get an apology.

Stickers are a waste of money.


4 posted on 06/16/2013 9:07:14 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Olog-hai

Why should I have to print it? Shouldn’t the display on my obamaphone suffice?


5 posted on 06/16/2013 9:07:38 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

Never know when the EMP is gonna hit. (Oh yeah; that’ll take out the ignition system on the car too . . .)


6 posted on 06/16/2013 9:10:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Jedidah
not all cop cars have plate readers installed yet, this way they look at the sticker as they go by you and it it's OOD, they turn the lights on... THEN comes all the other infractions
7 posted on 06/16/2013 9:22:31 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Olog-hai

With automated license plate readers there is no necessity to have stickers.


8 posted on 06/16/2013 9:27:38 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: Olog-hai

Print your own sticker? Doesn’t make sense because the ink runs when printed by an ink-jet printer, which is what 95% of the people have. One rainstorm and (poof!) no more sticker.


9 posted on 06/16/2013 9:31:17 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

No, not your own sticker; the registration card that goes in your vehicle, I was thinking. Those are all currently mailed out in PA, excepting the temporary ones you print out after renewing online.


10 posted on 06/16/2013 9:34:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

vehicle “registration”

(a) should be a private matter with a private database holder,

(b) from which a license plate and a registration certificate is obtained, and that private database holder files your ownership title

(c) and it all is intended to help you identify your vehicle if it is stolen, with which you can give that information to the police and your insurance company

NOT to make it easier for the police to identify you as you drive, when you are doing nothing wrong.

if you make a driving-moving violation or if you are in a car that is reported stolen, THEN of course the police can identify you as a “suspect” and stop you

why you should need a sticker on the car, when you already have the license plate, I’ve never understood, unless that is it has NOTHING to do with actually identifying ownership but merely for extracting new fees every year - for nothing


11 posted on 06/16/2013 10:11:47 AM PDT by Wuli (qu)
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I say go for it! I'm tired of MY property being mired by state stickers.

Realistically, this is PA, whatever will those part time dinky township cops do to fill their tiny coffers if they can't spy registration stickers from afar with their hand held telescopes?

Probably go nowhere knowing this corrupt state.

12 posted on 06/16/2013 11:18:23 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4
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you can print your own registration credential

1) ID required for voting?? Racist! People can't afford to get an ID card! Those things can cost $5 or more! This is an attempt to suppress black votes!

2) Auto registration? Not a problem -- hop on your shiny new computer, access your high-speed internet account, print up some labels on your printer, and you are good to go! Who could complain about that?

13 posted on 06/16/2013 11:33:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Cyber Liberty
Print your own sticker? Doesn’t make sense because the ink runs when printed by an ink-jet printer, which is what 95% of the people have. One rainstorm and (poof!) no more sticker.

You Merrycans have the strangest problems. In Oz (before we went stickerless a couple of years ago) we took advantage of the fact that glass is transparent, and put the stickers on the inside of the screen, where they are protected from the weather.


14 posted on 06/16/2013 3:01:23 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("New Yorks Finest" are now "The Untouchables")
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You Merrycans have the strangest problems. In Oz (before we went stickerless a couple of years ago) we took advantage of the fact that glass is transparent, and put the stickers on the inside of the screen, where they are protected from the weather.
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We solved the weather problem with science and knowhow and developed plastic coated stickers with adhesive backs that stuck onto the license plate. It was a miracle!


15 posted on 06/16/2013 3:05:46 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: ClearCase_guy

In reality this is a commentary on the sorry state of our guardians. Enough police departments have computerized license readers that will give the police man all the information one could ever want as it scans all the plates.

Another way we become a police prison state.


16 posted on 06/16/2013 3:07:43 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Olog-hai

Well, it’s about time, my old 1911 has so many
registration stickers on it, I can’t find the trigger!


17 posted on 06/16/2013 3:18:15 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
One rainstorm and (poof!) no more sticker.

Well, you can say what you want about New York [and you'd probably be right], but we put our stickers on the inside of the windshield. Rain problem eliminated.

18 posted on 06/16/2013 4:08:28 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
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I’m in AZ. “What’s rain?”


19 posted on 06/16/2013 4:15:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Olog-hai; Ghost of SVR4

After I moved from MD to PA and bought a new car up here, my yearly inspection stickers said that they expired 10/31 – I saw them every day as they are affixed to the windshield and had the expiration date facing inside as well as facing out. I mistakenly thought since my inspection expired 10/31 that so did my vehicle registration. Wrong!

My registration expired 9/30. I had gotten a registration renewal in the mail but stupidly filed it away in “something that can wait until the end of October”, especially since I’m literally in walking distance of a PennDot center, thinking “I’ll take care of both one Saturday in October” and I don’t like giving the State money before I have to.

I had worked quite late one night and was pulling into the parking space in front of my apartment when a local township cop car with his blue lights on, stopped behind me, blocking me in. The cop came as I was sitting in my car wondering what the heck I had had done wrong (wasn’t speeding, always signal, obey stop signs, etc. have a squeaky clean record) to tell me my registration was expired (by about 4 days).

I explained why I thought I had till the end of October and he was very nice and polite BTW and didn’t give me a ticket, only a warning. He told me that I could renew on-line and could print out a temporary registration until I got my stickers, which I did that night, although since I rarely print, my printer was out of ink. So I saved them as a PDF and emailed them to my work email so I could print out the next day and saved a copy to my phone just in case I got stopped again hoping that would be good enough.

But here is the real stinker. I had 3 days to bring a copy of my on-line renewal and copy of my temporary registration in person to the local police station otherwise I’d get a ticket and a fine. So after printing them out at work¸ I had to leave work early to get to the police station before they closed to avoid getting the ticket and fine.


20 posted on 06/16/2013 4:58:34 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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