Posted on 06/16/2013 8:37:22 AM PDT by EveningStar
The United States might have been able to prevent the deadly Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington had controversial National Security Agency surveillance practices been in place at the time, former Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday.
The former No. 2 in the Bush administration defended the NSA's ability to monitor phone and email data, and labeled as a "traitor" the analyst who has admitted to having leaked details about the classified program.
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Is anyone *really* that surprised? I used to have tons of respect for Cheney, but he’s proven in the past 8 years he is a member of the establishment elite.
Senator Cruz and Sarah? (who kicked Cheney’s moderate to leftist statist ass?)
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Well I love Sarah too. And Cruz is first rate. Too bad he’s not eligible for the Presidency - and apparently doesn’t know it.
In any case that is a highly overmatched team. Neither is going to succeed Obama.
No, that’s not what he said. He was referring to the children of illegals who were brought here by their parents through no fault of their own. Big difference.
I'd forgotten about Cheney's endorsement of Ted Cruz' opponent, establishment/RINO Dewhurst. I'd also forgot about the swipe Cheney took at Sarah.
With the above, and his latest statements on NSA spying, Cheney's fallen way down the ladder, in my book.
For all of you that think you are posting anonymously, Think again.
Goggle,Yahoo and the others will turn you out in a heartbeat.
Heck a normal citizen doing some amateur sleuthing can identify someone and develop time lines.
We do it here on FR all the time
We even make heroes of amateur sleuths.
A good rule of thumb is I would not say anything on the internet that I would not say in public.
But we all do.
The wonder of the internet is also a curse, everything is time stamped and has a source of origin.
The real danger is in taking stuff out of context to persecute people falsely.
All surveillance should be approved by the law and have to stand up to the law
“Rather than rip Cheney, “
Almost got to the end of the comments without a single contributor not taking issue with Cheney. Then you. Mo, the thread is about the position Cheney took. He threw himself under the bus.
Whose law?
These nice law enforcement officers?
Now, that's a fight, between this regime and Perry, I'd love to witness.
You and me both, darlin’. I’d pay good money to watch it.
NSA could’ve stopped 9/11.....that’s rich, coming from the shadow government insider who knows better. Democrat or Republican, all tenacles lead back to the same souce.
Problem is that he can’t.
If he got to POTUS he could effect some change.
I will say this for the fellow.
He aint skeered and he does bow up on DC.
Hell, he let the States movement to say no to Obamacare.
Noop, I aint setting up no exchange.
You set up the exchange. You OWN IT.
He will pay a political price for that,and he knows it, but he aint skeered.
Jan Brewer is caving on that already.
I have had some beefs with Perry in the past, but he is a pretty decent fellow, and he does listen to the people.
The Bush administration had the enemy clearly defined.
The Bush administration used it to find terrorists.
The Bush administration did not use it to gain info to be used against political enemies.
The problem is the Obama administration.
They are using the EPA, IRS,and other gov't agencies against their enemies same way.
What's been done about any of it?
How are we any different than 1930's Germany?
Reagan had NO desire to put a Rockefeller Republican who was Gerry Ford's Chief of Staff and wunderkind in his administration. Cheney had to go into exile from Washingtion's insider power base. He would claim Wyoming's only house seat and pretend to be a conservative in hopes of getting back into power.
Reagan did not buy the conservative pretensions of Cheney or any of the Rockefeller republicans who did him dirty at the 1976 convention. More importantly none of Reagan's trusted inner circle who made personnel decisions such as Jim Baker trusted him either.
Cheney got back into power by accident as John Tower could not be confirmed as Daddy Bush's Secretary of Defense.
Instead of looking for someone inside Republican Party conservative leadership, he turned to a fellow who he had served with in the Ford-Rockefeller Administration. Such an appointment could have been a Geico commercial. For an insider elite power junkie to be named czar of the military industrial complex made him happier than Dracula working at a blood bank.
After Lee Atwater had properly but the pathetic losing Bush campaign on track with some conservative common sense such as "Read my lips, no new taxes," Daddy Bush proved more loyal to the Washington insider elites than his pledge to the Reagan conservatives that believed in him and had elected him.
The fallout for Tricky Dick Cheney was a very soft landing at Halliburton.
Then Daddy Bush mucked things up again. When Junior got himself nominated, Daddy Bush most likely suggested having his old buddy Dick Cheney find him a running mate.
The guy Cheney found had five draft deferments, two DUIs, a checkered academic record, a heart condition, was constitutionally ineligible to run with Junior, and no experience of running for office outside of running campaigns in the least populated state in the union with a total of three electoral votes.
Of course when you send a power junkie like Cheney to find a candidate who if elected will sit one heartbeat or one hunting trip away from the most powerful office in the world, the power junkie cannot help himself. He will suggest himself even if he can only bring three electoral votes to the campaign which were already in the red column.
Tricky Dick sold the goods and Junior fell for the sales job.
It was just one of many nails in the coffin of Conservative and the Republican Party.
Cheney rebranded Consevatives into Neo-cons who are no more than the sales force for the military industrial complex.
Most importantly he deprived the Republican Party of the most important asset of any incumbent party to the executive branch may have which is using the vice presidency to develop the most viable candidate to succeed the incumbent in office.
Turning from Reagan to Daddy Bush was a bad turn for conservatives and Republicans.
When Junior fell for the sales job that a military industrial complex power junkie with five draft deferments, two DUIs, a checkered academic record, a heart condition was the best man to be his vice-president, it would have dire consequences for conservatives and Republicans. Since Cheney was unelectable, guys like Juan McCain and Mittens Romney would fill the vacuum.
To Junior's credit, he has shut up and got off the stage. I wish that Tricky Dick would do the same.
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There is the rub.
Overseas calls were monitored and recorded back in the Clinton years.
They were monitored from Truman on.
And that’s why it stopped the Boston Marathon Bombing?
Oh..., wait...
Has he been talking to a Bush again? Big mistake!
As long as people ate too cowardly to profile, and too scared to listen in a radical mosques, it won’t to a dang bit of good!
Isn’t it funny how many people here demand that we profile, until they come up on the radar?
The people of Texas voted and WE decided that WE will allow the children of illegals to get an education because WE don’t want to pay for generations of illegals on the government dole. It was OUR decision. If YOU don’t like it, don’t live in Texas.
The days of punishing children for their parents’ sins ended centuries ago. Those children didn’t break the law. Their parents did. That was Rick Perry’s point.
If the federal government would do its damn job of securing the borders instead of spying on American citizens, the people of Texas wouldn’t have to choose between allowing children of illegals to educate themselves and paying for generations of ignorant illegals who spend all of our money.
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