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Little Hope For Beechcraft In USAF Dispute
FORBES ^ | June 12, 2013 | Kenneth Rapoza

Posted on 06/14/2013 9:07:26 AM PDT by KMR

Beechcraft hopes Congress will get involved to kill a U.S. Air Force contract with its Brazilian rival Embraer to make $431 million worth of fighter planes for Afghanistan.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: a29; afghanistan; airforce; alteredtitle; at6; beechcraft; obama; supertucano
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1 posted on 06/14/2013 9:07:26 AM PDT by KMR
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To: KMR

Crazies.

Buy Amerikan® you stoopit Fks....


2 posted on 06/14/2013 9:09:36 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: KMR

Make a better product.

Make it cheaper.

Make contributions to the correct party...


3 posted on 06/14/2013 9:09:55 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Vendome

You left the ol out of Fks...


4 posted on 06/14/2013 9:10:44 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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Beech is still spitting into the wind hoping they won’t get wet.


5 posted on 06/14/2013 9:11:04 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: KMR
Actual title: Little Hope For Beechcraft In USAF Dispute
6 posted on 06/14/2013 9:15:06 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Vendome

So it is better to turn down an existing airplane with a successful flying record to buy a paper airplane that has never flown and its entire history consists of the salesman putting out his arms and making engine sounds with his mouth.

Yea, thats the ticket.


7 posted on 06/14/2013 9:18:36 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Vendome

If a company with largely American shareholders can’t beat a rival on competitive tender then why should the taxpayer be forced to subsidize their failure and buy their product anyway?

If this type of plane is so strategically important that a company with largely Brazilian shareholders can’t be allowed to make it then why were they included in the tender process?


8 posted on 06/14/2013 9:19:09 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: KMR

Embraer and Sierra Nevada.

Let’s see now...

Embraer, not a bad airplane maker but Brazil is run by the most anti-American socialist skank in its history right now. Why give her the business?

Sierra Nevada....run by the Ozmen family, Turks who use the wife’s name on the corporate ownership papers to qualify for affirmative action preferences as a “woman owned” business. And Oh Yes, they get points for being anti-Jewish Muslims. But I doubt that either have been to a mosque in years...

Yessirree, that’s the new U.S.A.F., wouldn’t want any fresh faced American boys in Kansas building the airplanes that are supposed to be defending them.


9 posted on 06/14/2013 9:21:41 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: KMR

How much more would the Beechcraft version cost over the Embraer airplane? Since we’re giving the damned things to Afghanistan then go with the lower cost solution.


10 posted on 06/14/2013 9:21:51 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: KMR

Bring back the Spads (Sky Raiders) out of storage, it will be a lot cheaper. That’s if they haven’t been chopped up.


11 posted on 06/14/2013 9:28:03 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods, Glenn Doherty and Sean Smith? Forgot already?)
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To: 0.E.O

If they are being given to the Afghans why not just give them some Piper Cubs and be done with it? Anything else is an even bigger waste of our money.

I recall that out of 108 Afghan pilot candidates only a hand full, like less than 10 have been successful.


12 posted on 06/14/2013 9:33:50 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: KMR

A Super Tucano by Embraer flying over the Dominican Republic.
The U.S. Air Force is spending over $400 million for 20 of these
aircraft for use by the Afghanistan Air Force.

13 posted on 06/14/2013 9:34:51 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: KMR

Beechcraft doesn’t have a plane ready to go, Embraer does.


14 posted on 06/14/2013 9:35:30 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: jim_trent
to buy a paper airplane that has never flown


15 posted on 06/14/2013 9:36:35 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: KMR

If you get your ass beat twice bawl like a child and ask congress to intervene and change the rules.


16 posted on 06/14/2013 9:36:39 AM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Bring back the Spads (Sky Raiders) out of storage, it will be a lot cheaper.

That would be an O&M nightmare of epic proportions, and cost out the wazoo.

17 posted on 06/14/2013 9:37:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: jim_trent
"So it is better to turn down an existing airplane with a successful flying record to buy a paper airplane that has never flown and its entire history consists of the salesman putting out his arms and making engine sounds with his mouth."

Good summary of how the US Air Force thinks! And I write that as someone who worked operational test for the USAF before I retired...

18 posted on 06/14/2013 9:46:12 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Regulator
Embraer, not a bad airplane maker but Brazil is run by the most anti-American socialist skank in its history right now. Why give her the business?/I>

You just answered your own question within the question......

19 posted on 06/14/2013 9:47:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
The Skyraider cannot be flown by today's metrosexuals, and it required hi-test gasoline. The USAF doesn't do gasoline anymore. They use bio-jet fuel and are saving up to buy another F22.

With 8 of 108 cadets qualifying, IMO, Afghanistan really needs to start a model airplane club, then a CAP squadron and work their way up, with intense adult supervision.

BTW, if Allah the All Wise wanted these Worthy Oriental Gentlemen to fly, he would have equipped them with carpets.

20 posted on 06/14/2013 10:27:25 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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