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1 posted on 06/13/2013 6:58:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
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I imagine that “editing” someones text, e-mail or phone calls would be no problem in making someone seem like a threat to national security and being able , then, to make that person disappear—or be fosterized.


2 posted on 06/13/2013 7:08:55 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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just saw King NY being questioned about spying and he was full of B/S who did not like being called out .

He tried to tell us thousands of lives are saved but gave no details on how, he then tried to tell us the NY car bomb was stopped and was told no it was not because of PRISM and he just said he disagrees and then moved on.

He and all the other elitist ruling class are being called out on their power grab and spying and hey do ;t like it which is maybe why they want millions of illegals coming in to shore up their own power because they want uneducated sheep to vote for them


3 posted on 06/13/2013 7:10:13 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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“If you are doing nothing wrong, then you shouldn’t fear being closely watched”. I wonder if the government and intelligence community agree with that line of thinking when we are speaking of THEM?

Or do they only believe that THEY are entitled to do the watching? Odd.


4 posted on 06/13/2013 7:10:51 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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“It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the
laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.”

-– James Madison

5 posted on 06/13/2013 7:11:37 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Free Stuff, Home of the Enslaved)
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What's legal today could become illegal tomorrow and since your formerly legal activities are already in your record, then yes.
Even the most honest people have reason to fear this development.
Post facto laws are illegal you say? Can you really trust that?
Once they're out to get you, they can find *something* to scare you into accepting a plea deal.

6 posted on 06/13/2013 7:12:36 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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“The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”

— Ayn Rand


8 posted on 06/13/2013 7:15:11 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Free Stuff, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: Kaslin

Secret courts, massive internal spying, using government to suppress opposition,,, this sounds really familiar.


13 posted on 06/13/2013 7:19:29 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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A few years ago, we had a Madoff clone in our area.

This slick operator had two types of friends.

1. Good/honest people with a long background of community involvement and people wanted to serve on boards or be executors for wills/trust because of their honesty. He never tried to fleece/con these people, and they were the last ones to find out about his criminal fleecing. Many defended him until the full story of his wide spread fleecing of others was out in the open. They served unknowingly as his cover and unspoken references.

2. The greedy sheep, he groomed for fleecing. These people were constantly looking how to win in the investment game and wanted more/higher returns for their investments than the group 1. One could describe them as the greedy elite.

A NSA history of phone calls/emails between group 1 and group 2 might have a lot of innocent discussions between the two groups. However, those in Group I might have been labeled as guilty in spite of no proof of guilt except for a history of innocent contact with the greedy sheep and innocent recorded contacts with the Madoff clone.


16 posted on 06/13/2013 7:24:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ('How empty and dead' were they to let Chris Stevens, one of them , die for 'Obama-Clinton fiction?')
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U.S. Rep. Peter King (R-NY), chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, immediately labeled Snowden a "defector," and said he should be extradited at once to the United States to be prosecuted to the "full extent of the law."

We owe Snowden a huge debt for firmly and finally exposing the Republican Party as what they really are - collaborators used to keep lovers of liberty quiescent.

Who deserved (and received) the greater punishment: the Wehrmacht officer in charge of occupied Norway, or Vidkun Quisling?

17 posted on 06/13/2013 7:25:12 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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May have nothing to hide... now.

The problem is the “Joe the Plumber” thing:

If Joe knew he was going to meet and question Obama then he may have made different choices in life, and on that day.

But, once it happened, they used Joe’s past actions to attempt to smear him.

I believe that “Privacy Rights” will be one of the major social and political issues of the next decade. We best prepare now.


18 posted on 06/13/2013 7:44:40 AM PDT by Noamie
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"...a massive apparatus within the United States government..."

As if Russia and China haven't been doing it for decades.

19 posted on 06/13/2013 7:47:37 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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I think we all need to be ready to face the fact that we will likely live to see a situation where the states (red states) will have to stare down a declaration of martial law. Its coming just as sure as we are talking about it.

The Congress of the United States will do nothing to stop the totalitarian apparatus. Neither will the SCOTUS. They are both now totally corrupted.


22 posted on 06/13/2013 8:11:10 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Gotta love those who have no problem with the govt spying on every move they make because they have done nothing wrong. Lets see.

Has your bank ever made a mistake and bounced a check when your had deposited the funds to cover it?

Has your landlord ever made a mistake in your rent collection or Security Deposit?

Has the Police ever made a mistake and ticketed you for speeding when you weren’t?

Have you ever gone to court....for ANY reason?

Did YOUR address get mistakenly printed on a Drug Search Warrant?

Has your son or daughter ever been in trouble at school? (like that little girl who said she was going to shoot her friend with soap bubbles and the school put in her permanent records that she was a terrorist threat)

What about that time when your rebellious son was hanging out with the wrong crowd that night and got picked up for Criminal Mischief,
and you went down to the station and signed him out?

How about the other side of you family?
The black sheep side with your same last name?
Don’t they have a son who goes to all those protests with OWS?

What about that nutcase neighbor who heads up the Neighborhood Watch?
Didn’t you piss him off one day by blocking his driveway for five minutes while moving a piano? Did you know that he was Filing Reports on “subversive” neighbors late at night on his computer?

Everything on you is permanent,,,everything. But , hey, there is nothing to fear from the govt, right?


23 posted on 06/13/2013 8:37:25 AM PDT by chessplayer
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Snowden is a distraction. William Binney is the real deal.


27 posted on 06/13/2013 9:34:30 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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Here is a thread about him from about a week ago.
32 posted on 06/13/2013 10:51:34 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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Why do you suppose many cops carry “drop guns?”


36 posted on 06/13/2013 11:28:19 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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Bob, weren’t you an elected congressman? Wasn’t there any collection of data, wiretapping and spying while you were in office? This is nothing new and with technology advancing as it has, isn’t going to stop. So what do we as a country do about it? Is national security a priority or does it fall second to individual privacy?


37 posted on 06/13/2013 11:40:35 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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BTTT!


39 posted on 06/13/2013 2:29:49 PM PDT by Pagey (HELL is The 2nd Term of a POTUS who uses the terms “social justice” and “fair distribution".)
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41 posted on 06/13/2013 3:46:42 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.

They don't really even have to modify your private info. All they have to do is change the definition of what constitutes a threat. Tea Party membership? Gun owner? Conservative post on a blog? We have a special file for people like that.

48 posted on 06/14/2013 8:41:05 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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