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Schools not obligated legally to protect students from each other, appeals court rules
Tribune Review ^ | 06/05/2013

Posted on 06/06/2013 10:51:40 AM PDT by Wolfie

Schools not obligated legally to protect students from each other, appeals court rules

Public schools don't have a “special relationship” with students that would make them legally obligated to protect students from each other, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday in a 10-4 decision upholding a ruling in a Beaver County case.

Bradley and Diedre Morrow of West Mayfield sued the Blackhawk School District in 2010 after the district refused to expel a student who repeatedly attacked one of their daughters, even after the attacker was twice adjudicated delinquent because of the assaults.

In a precedential ruling, a 10-judge majority of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals confirmed the March 2011 ruling by U.S. Magistrate Judge Lisa Pupo Lenihan that schools don't have the same control over students that the government has over inmates and people involuntarily committed for mental health reasons, so it doesn't have the same constitutional duty to protect students from harm.

A four-judge minority disagreed, saying that compulsory school attendance and school regulations temporarily place students in the state's custody and therefore deserving of its protection.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: arth; bullying; goobermintschools; lawsuit; ruling; safety
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To: PieterCasparzen

Close all public schools! Abolish the NEA!

Sell the buildings to private investors that in turn lease them to Charter Schools!

Government MUST get completely out of education!


21 posted on 06/06/2013 11:05:44 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: PieterCasparzen
They’re in loco parentis...

That's why I like freerepublic. It's not only informative, and entertaining, but educational too. Btw, I had to google that term.
22 posted on 06/06/2013 11:06:36 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Wolfie
schools don't have the same control over students that the government has over inmates and people involuntarily committed for mental health reasons

Local problems, as in local schools, are best solved locally. Local problems are not best solved by those beyond the local community, as in prisons and mental institutions.

23 posted on 06/06/2013 11:09:33 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: SpaceBar

But a judge would know the term all too well.

So these particular judges are knowingly issuing wrong decisions.

Yet more proof that we need our judicial house cleaned, as well.


24 posted on 06/06/2013 11:11:04 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Wolfie

Well, then, I guess they won’t mind if I start sending little Johnny to school with a .380 in his pocket.


25 posted on 06/06/2013 11:14:54 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: SpaceBar

So did I. The schools can’t be in charge of the children without taking responsibility for their safety. They can’t have it both ways.


26 posted on 06/06/2013 11:17:48 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: WayneS; All
The four judge minority is correct.

I agree. Compulsory school attendance reasonably establishes the so-called special relationship requiring schools to protect students from each other imo.

27 posted on 06/06/2013 11:18:09 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: RightGeek; ChildOfThe60s; paint_your_wagon
Er, what do you have to do to get expelled?

Not be black.

28 posted on 06/06/2013 11:18:30 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Wolfie

So now, officially, schools are NOT required to do anything to protect children.

Just like, officially, police are NOT required to do anything to protect citizens.


29 posted on 06/06/2013 11:18:34 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Wolfie; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; ...
RE :”Bradley and Diedre Morrow of West Mayfield sued the Blackhawk School District in 2010 after the district refused to expel a student who repeatedly attacked one of their daughters, even after the attacker was twice adjudicated delinquent because of the assaults.
In a precedential ruling, a 10-judge majority of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals confirmed the March 2011 ruling by U.S. Magistrate Judge Lisa Pupo Lenihan that schools don't have the same control over students that the government has over inmates and people involuntarily committed for mental health reasons, so it doesn't have the same constitutional duty to protect students from harm. “

So the school won against a lawsuit filed against them over a student who was harmed IN SCHOOL because its not the schools problem???

Yet what if a male teacher was coming on to a female teacher in that school when it wasnt welcome by her?? The same court would rule against the school a big $$$ for sure.

check out how a in Maryland lawsuit shut down a very popular swimming hole that was open for near a century in 2002.

A popular Baltimore County swim club was negligent two years ago when ill-equipped lifeguards responded slowly to cries for help after a 24-year-old competitive swimmer disappeared, and later drowned, in the deep waters of its quarry, a county Circuit Court jury decided yesterday.
In court, Whelihan argued that the club's lifeguards and management acted properly on July 2, 2000, after Eben's boyfriend yelled that his girlfriend had disappeared while swimming in the quarry.
She said there was scant chance anyone could have rescued Eben, who had slipped under the water unseen and without a struggle. She also said Eben was partly to blame for her own death because before swimming she had taken pain medication that could have made her drowsy.
“This quarry is big and deep, and when you swim in it, you know that,” Whelihan said.
But the Ebens’ attorney, Margaret M. McKee, argued that the swim club should have had an appropriate emergency response plan and sufficient rescue equipment, and that lifeguards were responsible for protecting swimmers.

Swim club found negligent in death Jury awards kin $760,000 in Balto. County drowning of woman, 24, in quarry October 10, 2002 Balt Sun

30 posted on 06/06/2013 11:18:52 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Wolfie

Who imagined that they did?


31 posted on 06/06/2013 11:19:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Bully codes only apply to those beating up on homosexuals.”

Not beating up on them - simply expressing disapproval, or failing to “celebrate” is “bullying”.

“Political correctness is a lie.”

Indeed, it’s whole definition is the punishment of truth telling. It’s no coincidence that political correctness was first referred to as “cultural Marxism”.


32 posted on 06/06/2013 11:19:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Wolfie

sigh....


33 posted on 06/06/2013 11:22:06 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Avenge me Girls AVENEGE ME!!!! ( I don't have any son's))
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To: Jacquerie

I think the title is not correct.
It’s not protecting students from “each other” that they are specifically referring to.


34 posted on 06/06/2013 11:23:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RightGeek
Er, what do you have to do to get expelled?

In middle school in California, as far as I can tell, you cannot be expelled, period. About the only way to get a kid out of the system is for him to be incarcerated. And as soon as he's out, back he comes. We have had kids commit assault, vandalize property, start fires (start FIRES!) bring drugs... you cannot expel them.

35 posted on 06/06/2013 11:25:21 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Decision seems right

So first graders are responsible for protecting themselves from sixth graders when they are at school?

36 posted on 06/06/2013 11:26:32 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Truth is, they really can’t protect your kid, no matter what 14 judges say. It’s not physically possible for them to watch every interaction, every second of every day, in a building with hundreds or thousands of kids.

Granted the current Obama policies about not being able to expel troublemakers cause that’s RAAAACIST have compounded the problem.


37 posted on 06/06/2013 11:26:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sickoflibs

Brother!


38 posted on 06/06/2013 11:29:56 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Wolfie
So the practice of Loco Parentis (in place of parents) is out the window?

That is good to know, silly me I always thought I had a duty to protect.

39 posted on 06/06/2013 11:34:23 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: RightGeek

Say the word ‘gun’ in school?


40 posted on 06/06/2013 11:36:39 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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