Posted on 06/05/2013 4:04:16 AM PDT by servo1969
A group of about 100 high school students traveling from New York to Atlanta were thrown off a flight, along with their chaperones, after the pilot and crew lost patience with some kids who wouldn't sit down and put away their cellphones.
The teenagers, all seniors at the Yeshiva of Flatbush, in Brooklyn, were ordered off the AirTran flight around 6 a.m. Monday as it sat at a gate at LaGuardia Airport.
AirTran's parent company, Southwest Airlines, said in a statement that flight attendants asked passengers several times to take their seats and put their mobile devices away. The airline said that when some didn't comply, the captain repeated the request. When that didn't work, either, the whole group of students was ordered to disembark for safety reasons, the airline said.
The flight was delayed for about 45 minutes while the students filed out of the Boeing 737, which seats about 137 people, leaving the plane mostly empty.
Rabbi Seth Linfield, executive director at Yeshiva of Flatbush, said that administrators were still looking into the matter Tuesday, but that he believed adults on the trip who said the students weren't behaving that badly.
"Preliminarily, it does not appear that the action taken by the flight crew was justified," he said in a statement.
Asked whether he thought 100 teenagers were too many to keep in order on a flight, Linfield said the school has taken similar-size groups before without any problems.
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Changing the subject? You took the opportunity of commenting on one group of students of one school who were accused of misbehaving and were punished for doing so, in order to malign multiple categories of observant Jews who had nothing to do with the event and do not even send their children to that school. Throwing up names of other “categories” of observant Jews does not change what you have done.
I am glad that you have clarified that you are not a self-hating Jew.
Shirley, you jest?
Insinuating that wideawake is anti-semitic is one of the more comical things I’ve ever read here.
I will say that Chabad Jews tend to actually be stricter than a lot of the Hasidim. They are the most known to the general public because they do a lot of outreach to non-affiliated Jews.
I am not "maligning" anyone.
Nor am I changing the subject.
What I am observing is that unruly teenagers are a feature of all communities that are composed of humans.
Quite a bit of paranoid theorizing here.
What I suspect happened is a couple kids acted up, some chaperones got involved (re: became overly aggressive with defending the kids and not making them behave) and rather than sorting through the complexity of kicking the offenders and selecting chaperones to stay with the kids the decision was made to remove everyone.
Like it or not, the captain is in charge.
I know of people getting kicked off of flights for much less.
Good point.
At the same time, because of their outreach, they tend to be very understanding of non-observant Jews.
So Chabad Jews are the “good Jews”, then? And what does this have to do with kids thrown off a flight for standing up and using their smart phones, when it is extremely unlikely that any of them were Affiliated with the Chabad or other Hassidic movements?
Would you be as sanguine if I started a chain of comments maligning the Jesuits and complementing the Maronites in a thread about the Pope?
It has no bearing on the event at all. I was merely elucidating Chabad practices since they were under discussion.
Wrong, tootsie roll. I was generalizing about New Yorkers. I couldn't care less about their race, religion, sexual orientation, hair color, etc.
Orthodox Jews most certainly do use cell phones...I was in Monsey not too long ago.
Let’s see. TSA groping and other assaults on your dignity, loud crying of children, tight quarters, possibility of an Arab take-over or blow-up of the plane, ill-behaved and/or corpulent seat mates, difficulty of taking care of one’s excretory needs because of limited rest room facilities, unattractive stewardesses (in contrast to the past, i.e., 1960s and early 1970s), horrible food to the extent one gets food, and a few others I cannot mercifully remember. Now, I add boisterous teenagers.
Yep, I knew there was a reason I quit being an air passenger in 2000.
Sure thing Rabbi.
You might want to ask adults who were on the plane, but not "on the trip."
Probably get a less biased answer.
The “no true Scotsman” fallacy at play all over this thread.
You’re right. A lot of folks in flyover land mistake New York rude for a Jewish thing. Probably because, unlike most New Yorkers, Jews actually make it outside of the confines of New York City, and are the only New Yorkers a lot of people have ever met.
Plenty of them moving to the N metro ATL area, (Apparently) grown men driving around in SUVs with huge Yankees stickers, and license plates, all with handicap tags.
LOL, they ain't going to see the people.
“You can buy cell phone zappers for not a lot of money. It’s illegal but surely they can create an exception for flight safety. They can; And don’t call me “Shirley””
Hey Shirley,
THAT is the dumbest post I have read on FR in a long time.
You propose that we eliminate the potential problems caused by cell phone transmissions to aircraft navigation by using a device that continuously emits even stronger and wider cell phone channel emissions.
We have raised people with no critical thinking skills and no situational awareness. They live in a cocoon. Unable to understand how their actions endanger themselves and others and unwilling to respect the authority of those with that knowledge. Truly a dangerous generation.
It would be quite simple for the stewardesses to walk down the aisle prior to takeoff and render all the cell phones useless. Then the dweebs would have to shut off their phones since they'd be worthless. Would have been useful to zap Alec Baldwin and Schmuck Chumer when they held up flights.
He's also my friend.
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