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100 students ejected from NYC to Atlanta flight for being too rowdy
FoxNews.com ^ | 6-4-2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/05/2013 4:04:16 AM PDT by servo1969

A group of about 100 high school students traveling from New York to Atlanta were thrown off a flight, along with their chaperones, after the pilot and crew lost patience with some kids who wouldn't sit down and put away their cellphones.

The teenagers, all seniors at the Yeshiva of Flatbush, in Brooklyn, were ordered off the AirTran flight around 6 a.m. Monday as it sat at a gate at LaGuardia Airport.

AirTran's parent company, Southwest Airlines, said in a statement that flight attendants asked passengers several times to take their seats and put their mobile devices away. The airline said that when some didn't comply, the captain repeated the request. When that didn't work, either, the whole group of students was ordered to disembark for safety reasons, the airline said.

The flight was delayed for about 45 minutes while the students filed out of the Boeing 737, which seats about 137 people, leaving the plane mostly empty.

Rabbi Seth Linfield, executive director at Yeshiva of Flatbush, said that administrators were still looking into the matter Tuesday, but that he believed adults on the trip who said the students weren't behaving that badly.

"Preliminarily, it does not appear that the action taken by the flight crew was justified," he said in a statement.

Asked whether he thought 100 teenagers were too many to keep in order on a flight, Linfield said the school has taken similar-size groups before without any problems.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: airlines; airport; airtran; brooklyn; flatbush; laguardia; linfield; rabbi; seth; southwest; students; teens; yeshiva
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To: EinNYC; wideawake
I’m sure that you are not aware that these kids are MODERN ORTHODOX, not “ultra-Orthodox Jews”. I don’t know to which type of “trend” you refer as developing in New York—rowdy teenagers or being an “ultra-Orthodox” Jew. And, BTW, what does it matter whether they were Jewish students, Amish students, or purple students? Why did you feel a need to especially point out that they were Jews? Do we offend you in some manner? Go pound sand.

I never dreamed I would see the day when wideawake would be accused of anti-Semitism by anyone. You obviously know nothing about him or his posting history.

Please see my post #80. Thank you.

101 posted on 06/05/2013 9:21:34 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: wardaddy

No no no! I just wanted out of that thread.


102 posted on 06/05/2013 9:24:59 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I though it might be a mis-identification too. But Yeshiva of Flatbush is famous and rather exclusive. No mistake about who it was.


103 posted on 06/05/2013 9:26:45 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: wideawake

You are a liar

You damn well posted there and I saw you with my own eyes when I lurked for amusement....unless someone copped your name

All went well there till Howlin.....well acted herself....lok

And the rest of you clowns who think racism and bigotry is a big problem in this forum are full of self serving crap

You think you are better than us....smug and self righteous

I’ve seen this all my life from some ....and saw it here my first day..

You just got caught yet again doing what you accuse others of

Its OK when you generalize about a minority group....you mean well right?

Scratch a bigot baiter long enough and see what you get.

Wide awakes is an old Yankee political movement

Why on earth would you have the hubris to think Ivan owed your permission?

That is laughable

I don’t hate anyone right now in my life but I don’t think you self reflect well before smearing folks with the big you’re a bigot stick


104 posted on 06/05/2013 9:30:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: EinNYC

Good talk. Thanks for the really insightful analysis.


105 posted on 06/05/2013 9:30:29 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wardaddy
And the rest of you clowns who think racism and bigotry is a big problem in this forum are full of self serving crap

Yep. Needed to be said!

106 posted on 06/05/2013 9:31:45 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; jjotto
You are both correct - there are multiple yeshivas in Flatbush, but this particular school - which is apparently the new name of the old Joel Braverman - is an Orthodox school which is affiliated with the Orthodox Union and Young Israel.

We know this because Seth Linfield is specifically mentioned in the article.

107 posted on 06/05/2013 9:44:03 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: servo1969

Oh, no, I hope this doesn’t harm their self esteem.


108 posted on 06/05/2013 9:46:33 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: wardaddy; wideawake
You are often on call as her referee.....or defender

You obviously know more about wideawake than I do, considering that you knew about his sex change operation.

Wideawake, you're a woman now? Will you marry me? Only you'll have to change your religion. And give up smoking cigars. Ick!

Now, wardaddy, you obviously didn't read my post as I asked you to. You probably don't even know that I'm a Southerner, do you? Or a gentile? Or a "racist?"

Since you are one of those people who thinks "northern liberal" is one word, let me give you a little history lesson. In the beginning, it was the South that was liberal. While New England Yankees were setting up a "theocracy" based on "divine law," Southerners were loose-living Anglicans. As a matter of fact, in England it was Cromwell who was the conservative over that proto-Hell Fire Club known as the Cavaliers.

The South supported the French Revolution. The conservative North opposed it. Thomas Jefferson (the hero of "states' rights" anti-federalists) was 100% pro-Jacobin while Hamilton and his followers were horrified at their G-dlessness.

While your beloved Southern aristocrats were having "brandy and cigahs on the veranda" conservative Northerners were fighting liquor and Free Masonry and rationalism and gambling and prostitution and "sabbath"-breaking and atheist foreigners and yes, slavery and polygamy. And yes, widey . . . Catholicism.

While the North was defending states' rights during the Jefferson administration and the War of 1812 the "true Constitutionalist" Southerners were accusing them of "treason." And the same "states' rights" Southerners were busy in the years leading up to the Civil War systematically destroying the freedom of the Free states to prohibit slavery within their borders with the Compromise of 1850 and the Fugitive Slave Law and the Kansas-Nebraska Act and the Dred Scott decision and lynching anyone and destroying any printing press that had the temerity to criticize what was going on. This is your idea of "state sovereignty?" You don't even think a state had the right to prohibit slavery within its borders and you support "states' rights???" Don't make me laugh.

Then after the Civil War when Northern Republicans were promoting moralism and rural values and prayer and Bible reading in the public schools your beloved white Southerners were aligning with corrupt Northern urban Democrat machines. I'm sure the magnolias and cotton stalks all grew a little brighter as a result.

The Confederates were honorable people (and in some issues they were more correct than the North), but they were no conservatives. They were anti-federalists. And anti-federalists are not conservatives.

Neo-Confederates, unlike their honorable ancestors, are much worse. They dishonor their ancestors' memories with things those ancestors never knew or subscribed to: anti-Semitism, pacifism, protectionism (a Northern Federalist position I actually agree with, but not a true Confederate position).

As I said, every Confederate state except South Carolina had a strong Unionist element, especially among the "hillbillies" the liberals hate so much. I agree that recent history has been too one-sided in describing the conflict, but over-correcting is no answer to the problem. That's how "affirmative action" got started.

Now you'll doubtless not read this post and answer with something snarky and nasty, but at least maybe someone else will see it and learn a little history. Thank you for, if nothing else, giving me the opportunity to educate someone else.

109 posted on 06/05/2013 9:47:05 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: wardaddy
You are a liar You damn well posted there and I saw you with my own eyes when I lurked for amusement

I never posted there, ever.

I did not even lurk there, as you did.

You are now making stuff up.

Why on earth would you have the hubris to think Ivan owed your permission?

Common courtesy is not "hubris." If I wanted to start a forum or other accomodation called "MadIvan" I would have had the common courtesy to ask.

Its OK when you generalize about a minority group....you mean well right?

Again, you accuse me of "generalizing" when I am being specific.

110 posted on 06/05/2013 9:59:49 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Looks like you brought concepts to a grudge fight.

Your larger historical point is well taken, the old: "Rum, Romanism and rebellion" rallying cry.

111 posted on 06/05/2013 10:11:04 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Revolting cat!

Fun to watch them scurry when faced with their own quiver

Calling in reinforcements

And bringing out the neoconfederate argument when all else fails

Neoconfederate is the go to label most often used by those in question

I never ever even heard the term till first used by race baiters here

Shame howlin and sink spur and illbay.... old pals of theirs aren’t here to chip in..lol


112 posted on 06/05/2013 1:57:39 PM PDT by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: wardaddy

These Jewish kids should have behaved themselves but when you get a large group of boys together they can get out of hand, young testosterone reaching critical mass and KABOOM


113 posted on 06/05/2013 2:33:45 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Nice summation of some misrepresented history.

Reminds me of:

http://theamericanmercury.org/2010/04/the-calamity-of-appomattox/


114 posted on 06/05/2013 2:39:32 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: stanne
As a noo yawkah, let me say, I think you should.

Why? So I can hear them talk with that irritating accent for another 20 minutes?

No thanks.

115 posted on 06/05/2013 4:53:45 PM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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To: Dilbert56

“It would be quite simple for the stewardesses to walk down the aisle prior to takeoff and render all the cell phones useless. Then the dweebs would have to shut off their phones since they’d be worthless. Would have been useful to zap Alec Baldwin and Schmuck Chumer when they held up flights.”

You don’t know a thing about electronics or radio communications, do you?


116 posted on 06/05/2013 5:34:49 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Sorry, Zionist Conspirator; the media was totally on target this time. The yeshiva was identified as Yeshiva of Flatbush, the Joel Braverman building and that is EXACTLY the institution to which I referred. They also had video of the buiding, and there is no mistake. It is a VERY modern Orthodox school populated by mini kippa shruga wearers and girls dressed almost like the ghetto girls in public schools. Thus, these kids are not to be confused with Chassidic or “ultra-Orthodox” folks in any way, shape, or form.


117 posted on 06/05/2013 8:43:08 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: dennisw

Don’t be so quick to use the boy testosterone card. They said they were talking on their cell phones there for it must have been the girls.


118 posted on 06/05/2013 8:49:12 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (A bad hair day is not a mental issue, or is it?)
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To: EinNYC

Girls modern orthodox and all tarted up? Ain’t that great!


119 posted on 06/06/2013 2:46:10 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
1)There are still racists and anti-Semites on FR, though they aren't as bad as they used to be (when I first registered here the place was crawling with them). And I have seen some pretty awful posts by you myself (I've also seen some very good posts by you).

Dude, you are one one the biggest anti Christians on this forum. If you want respect for the Jews you venerate, you have to give respect in return. It's laughable for you to complain about "anti-semites" (someone Jews don't like) when you regularly post unvarnished bigotry of your own. If you want to be a servant of men, that is your own decision, but don't denigrate others who won't take the 30 silvers. Respect, like courtesy, is earned and not demanded. You deserve neither.

120 posted on 06/06/2013 3:32:25 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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