Posted on 06/03/2013 8:55:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
There were two big shocks for me on election night 2012:
1) Obama beat Romney. I had concluded that 2012 would look a lot like 2004, i.e. a 50-49 victory with about 290 Electoral votes. I did not subscribe to the landslide (i.e. Dick Morris) but did see a narrow Romney victory!
2) All of the talk about the "hispano" vote. I had looked at anecdotal evidence and did not see a "hispano" wave on election day. So I was surprised with all of the conventional wisdom that "hispanos" had reelected Obama.
It turns out that "hispanos" did not really show up after all, according to the CIS, or Center for Immigration Studies:
"Hispanics were 8.4 percent of voters (11.2 million), close to the 8.9 percent the Center for Immigration Studies projected prior to the November election.1 If Hispanic turnout had been what it was in 2008, 450,000 more Hispanics would have voted. "
Unfortunately for Romney, whites also stayed home: "If white turnout had been what it was in 2004, 4.7 million more of them would have voted. Of the 4.7 million whites who sat home on Election Day relative to 2004, 4.2 million did not have a bachelor's degree."
It looks like Romney had a "white" not "hispano" problem.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Romney had a “Conservative” problem, not a “white” problem.
Those who stayed home did so because the Republicans didn’t give them a good enough reason to leave the house.
“Romney had a Conservative problem, not a white problem.”
Fair or not, Romney also had “Mormon” and “Uncaring Rich Guy” problems. In retrospect, a really poor choice to run up against a disastrously bad incumbent.
Yea, well, I suspect there was a “count” problem. But a growing problem for the GOP is that in the Dem controlled Urban areas, “white” voter participation has sunk to near nothing simply because the Urban areas have become what amounts to One Party jurisdictions.
There was a good article on Friday that showed that Romney got more Conservative votes than Bush. It is the White “swing or moderate” voters who vote for the real thing that did not play out for Romney - those who when they see a Republic Liberal and a Democrat Liberal vote for the “real thing” every time.
Computers.
The whites who ‘stayed home’ were not whites who had previously voted for Republicans (much less conservatives), at least not in numbers even close to changing the election outcome.
I agree with you both. Not voting or voting for an Independent candidate (not Romney and not Obama) was pushed aggressively here on FR by a good number of folks. As I recall, the sentiment was, "We need to teach the establishment GOP a lesson."
Conservatives succeeded as they apparently did stay home to protest Romney as our RINO candidate. Does anyone think the "Establishment GOP" learned a lesson? We cut off our nose to spite our face.
I do not believe there is any way back now. >50% of the population is now dependent on handouts or has government jobs or relies on the fed for their own personal wealth in some fashion. We will not ever see an electorate vote for a president where Santa Claus is going to pull back on the gifts.
It is impossible to root out corruption without a revolution, peaceful or otherwise. And I don't see the numbers for a revolution. Best future, 50 years out, is secession from the union by several states.
I'm waiting for the inevitable idiot who says: "Well, we can blame them for Obama 2."
1. Isn't this a conservative website? If you are willing to vote for a liberal Republican, you are a sell-out.
2. Don't blame Evangelicals for the loser foisted on us by the GOP-E.
IMHO, the election was a great show, but it was all BS. TPTB got what they wanted.
The republicans are sitting on Benghazi relatively speaking. They may get to it. It would be good if so as it is a vital issue that we’ll not get through regardless of who covers it up
But the huge issue is under way as we blissfully view the squirming around the scandals
And it is not just the dem s.
Presently they are all working on getting an unknown lied about no of illegals into our system. Regardless of voting they have no respect for our laws they have no regard for us at all. Texas will be in lovable and changing all the time it will not be the us
So what difference would Romney haveade
Bah
I'd say that's because more and more of those solid GOP voters are tired of voting for an ineffective political party that, more often than not, sides with the opposition to pass things their previously solid voters DO NOT WANT!
WTF?!?, over.
Unlivable
I just don't think it can be accurately assessed given the amount of manipulation that occurred.
We were ambushed and it’s going to get worse if they’re allowed to continue their thug behavior.
bttt
One could argue that, given the media’s ability to pick the Republican candidate, the democrat’s ability to rig votes, and changing demographics, Republicans may never have another chance to win the presidency again.
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