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To: surroundedbyblue
Huh? You're here blaming Monsanto for bee colony collapse when anyone with any understanding of the scientific evidence knows that it's total BS. There is no evidence that Monsanto has anything to do with this phenomenon, while the legitimate scientific evidence points to to a virus spread by a parasitic mite called the Varroa.

But never let scientific evidence get in the way of your mindless ranting against one of the most successful American corporations. You are in good company with EU regulators who like to ban things without evidence. The EC couldn't agree on this ban so one guy (Tonnio Borg) made the decision, by edict, to ban neonicotinoids. He's an idiot, like Mayor Bloomberg, but you seem to like people who engage in this kind of activity. Those big gulps are truly dangerous, after all. Even the the British Beekeepers Association is against this action, and has stated that Borg is an idiot, and that neonicotinoids are not the problem.

Monsanto produces seeds that farmers willingly purchase in huge quantities. Do you really believe they do this because there is a gun to their head, and that by choosing Monsanto seeds they are not acting in their best interests? You don't know a thing about basic farming or biotechnology, but here you are condemning a company that specializes in it. If you steal Monsanto technology, they are going to come after you. Monsanto is no different than any other company with intellectual property. There is no scientific evidence that the products they sell are harmful in any way. To believe otherwise is the worst kind of chemicalphobia and alarmism. Do you chant "food for people, not for profit," when marching with those occupy folks?

That's great that you are pro-life. However, you are clearly anti-corporate, and I offer your support of the witch hunt against Monsanto as evidence.

64 posted on 05/28/2013 10:44:32 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

You are woefully uninformed.

One of the most successful American corporations?? I hardly call squelching the free market, bullying the competition, and crony capitalism successsful. If they were truly successful, then they’d let their product speak for itself in an open & free market.

“Do you really believe they do this because there is a gun to their head, and that by choosing Monsanto seeds they are not acting in their best interests?”

Yes, I do.


67 posted on 05/28/2013 10:58:03 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: Mase

So you know the cause of the bee colony collapse so much better than the US Dept of Ag or the EU?

http://science.time.com/2013/05/07/beepocalypse-redux-honey-bees-are-still-dying-and-we-still-dont-know-why/


73 posted on 05/28/2013 11:23:12 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Mase
Monsanto produces seeds that farmers willingly purchase in huge quantities. Do you really believe they do this because there is a gun to their head, and that by choosing Monsanto seeds they are not acting in their best interests?

The penalty for not buying Monsanto seed is being sued into bankruptcy by Monsanto. I had an old AG teacher who talked about when he was a kid, and everyone saved their own seed. His family had a neighbor who was an SOB. They guy ordered popcorn seed, and planted rows of of it along his property lines. The pollen from the popcorn seed pollenated some of the field corn grown on surrounding properties, because it is wind driven.

No problem that year, the field corn plants got pollenated and produced heads of field corn. But the next year the harvest produced field corn, and field corn-popcorn crosses. Popcorn kernels are small, and hard, and considered a pollutant in any thing except popcorn.

So the neighbors, for a long way around, because the field corn-pop corn hybrid seed had been planted (mixed in with pure field corn) by all of his near neighbors, meaning that pop corn pollen had pollenated the corn in the neighbor's neighbor's fields, lost money because their crop was smaller, and contaminated, and they then had to go out ad buy field corn seed because their own saved corn was contaminated with popcorn.

Monsanto is doing the exact same thing. They let their pollen naturally pollenate the neighbor's corn, then sue him for "stealing" their genetic material. You can pay Monsanto for using their seed, or you can pay them a lot more for not using their seed. Either way, you pay.

90 posted on 05/28/2013 12:10:11 PM PDT by Pilsner
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