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Illinois Illegally Seizes Bees Resistant to Monsanto's Roundup; Kills Remaining Queens
southmilwaukeenow.com ^ | May 27, 2013 | Kristan Harris

Posted on 05/28/2013 7:52:57 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

“They ruined 15 years of my research,” he told Prairie Advocate, by stealing most of his stock.


This mean he still has breeding pairs; hopefully he’ll bring the operation to Texas.


81 posted on 05/28/2013 11:45:36 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: BarnacleCenturion
What the hey, might as well investigate the USPTO as well as the other alphabets under investigation!

If true and Monsanto played a part, recommend moving all of Monsanto's patents into the public domain, by act of Congress...

82 posted on 05/28/2013 11:45:56 AM PDT by Errant
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To: BarnacleCenturion

bkmk


83 posted on 05/28/2013 11:50:39 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

< Stock up on non-hybrid, ‘heirloom’ seeds that grow plants that produce seeds! Eventually, they’ll be hard to find. >

And where does one find those seeds? I bought some at Walmart by Ferry Morse that say “ certified 100% Organic” on them. Is that the same?

So if you buy produce at the grocery store and save those seeds, do they grow? So many questions!


84 posted on 05/28/2013 11:55:40 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress

http://www.seedsavers.org/


85 posted on 05/28/2013 11:58:35 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: txhurl

Hell, I’d invest in him and his research/production.

Probably he has hundreds of bids for relocation.


86 posted on 05/28/2013 12:00:39 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: jjotto

Thanks!


87 posted on 05/28/2013 12:00:58 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

There are some other advantages to seed saving as well -

that plant that did well that you’re saving seeds from?

It did well IN THAT LOCATION, ie, YOUR location.


88 posted on 05/28/2013 12:03:04 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Mase

You’ll find that these “I have a friend whose uncle used to live in Nebraska so I know that Monsanto is evil” threads are much safer if you wrap your head with duct tape before reading most of the posts.


89 posted on 05/28/2013 12:10:11 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mase
Monsanto produces seeds that farmers willingly purchase in huge quantities. Do you really believe they do this because there is a gun to their head, and that by choosing Monsanto seeds they are not acting in their best interests?

The penalty for not buying Monsanto seed is being sued into bankruptcy by Monsanto. I had an old AG teacher who talked about when he was a kid, and everyone saved their own seed. His family had a neighbor who was an SOB. They guy ordered popcorn seed, and planted rows of of it along his property lines. The pollen from the popcorn seed pollenated some of the field corn grown on surrounding properties, because it is wind driven.

No problem that year, the field corn plants got pollenated and produced heads of field corn. But the next year the harvest produced field corn, and field corn-popcorn crosses. Popcorn kernels are small, and hard, and considered a pollutant in any thing except popcorn.

So the neighbors, for a long way around, because the field corn-pop corn hybrid seed had been planted (mixed in with pure field corn) by all of his near neighbors, meaning that pop corn pollen had pollenated the corn in the neighbor's neighbor's fields, lost money because their crop was smaller, and contaminated, and they then had to go out ad buy field corn seed because their own saved corn was contaminated with popcorn.

Monsanto is doing the exact same thing. They let their pollen naturally pollenate the neighbor's corn, then sue him for "stealing" their genetic material. You can pay Monsanto for using their seed, or you can pay them a lot more for not using their seed. Either way, you pay.

90 posted on 05/28/2013 12:10:11 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Nita Nupress
I think the credibility of the seller is important when buying such seeds..

This is expensive but probably a smart buy:
http://www.foodinsurance.com/emergency-supplies/garden-seeds#.UaUASkpPHtw

I would LOVE to have this one:
http://www.costco.com/Non-GMO-Garden-Seeds-2-gallon-Bucket-by-Food-for-Health.product.100018599.html,

or THIS less expensive one:
http://www.costco.com/.product.11500413.html?cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-itempageVerticalRight-_-ViewedPurchased&cm_vc=itempageVerticalRight|ViewedPurchased

Costco is VERY reputable. Note: 'Non-GMO' means 'NOT Genetically Modified Organisms'

Check Amazon.com for more good finds. Be sure seeds are non-hybrid and non-gmo, although it still is possible some seeds don't yield more seeds.

91 posted on 05/28/2013 12:15:14 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: MrB

Roundup doesn’t kill bees. It is an herbicide not an insecticide.


92 posted on 05/28/2013 12:23:40 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Yeah, they’ve “proven” it doesn’t kill bees - directly.

The problem is that it can cause them to not be able to make it back to the hive.

And that kills them.


93 posted on 05/28/2013 12:25:29 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Pilsner
Oh, please. No one in the US saves harvested field corn as seed for next year and hasn't for probably 70 years or so.

Planting open pollinated seed, American farmers were averaging about 25 bushels of corn per acre at the end of the Civil War; by the Second World War, that yield had increased to about 40 bushels per acre. By the 1950's, virtually all field corn planted in the US was either single or double cross hybrid. In the ensuing years, the average yield has increased to almost 160 bushels of corn per acre. Not only are yields dramatically greater, but inputs for fertilizer, herbicides and pesticide are dramatically lower.

Monsanto, by the way, couldn't care less whether you saved and replanted the next generation of their seed corn. Hybrid seeds don't reproduce to type.

94 posted on 05/28/2013 12:33:05 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: MrB

In Llano, TX, NW of Austin it’s too rocky and hilly to farm but the bees are everywhere and overloaded with pollen. It’s an ecologically remote town.

I have noted jellowjackets/hornets are killers of bees: I’ve watched the murder when I pulled my hummingbird feeder up close and was aghast at the carnage.


95 posted on 05/28/2013 12:51:05 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Monsanto is key to Agenda 21.


96 posted on 05/28/2013 1:00:50 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: 9YearLurker
There are a lot of possibilities, with the least plausible being the choice of "environmentalists." I see that you're weighing in with the environmentalists, and the EU. Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead in the company of either, but to each his own.

For the record, and for your general knowledge and edification, the 27 countries that make up the EU did NOT agree by a majority vote to ban neonicotinoids. It was the head of the EC who unilaterally decided to ban them even though the science doesn't support such a ban, and even though bee keeper associations are against a ban.

I'll keep sides with those who make their decisions based on sound science rather than those whose every decision is based on politics and a Luddite's fear of chemistry.

97 posted on 05/28/2013 1:24:44 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: surroundedbyblue
I have not read the leftist publications that you cite.

Really? You sound like you're a regular participant and subscriber.

but I have read enough about Monsanto & GMOs...

And from your comments here, everything you've read is wrong. That's exactly why you shouldn't get your information from HuffPost or Food Democracy Now....or Time Magazine.

This is a complex issue that is multi-faceted.

Is it safe to say that you're concerned?

Not only are there health & environmental concerns/questions tied to GM crops

Again, you've decided to prove to us that you are woefully misinformed about GM crops, and technology in general. Must be those sources you use for information again.

but the Monsanto Protection Act

There is no Monsanto Protection Act. That phrase was coined by a bunch of anti-capitalist Luddites who don't know their butt from a hole in the ground. Why you defend these people is beyond me.

....as well as various lawsuits launched by Monsanto against small farms is too large to ignore.

So you don't support companies protecting their intellectual property? If so, you may be an anti-capitalist. It's easy, don't steal Monsanto's intellectual property and you won't get sued.

Do you think for yourself or just drink the Monsanto propagandist Kool-Aid?

I'm guessing that you avoided science classes at all costs when you were in school. I mean, that chemistry is pretty tough stuff. Kind of like economics and markets. Too bad.

98 posted on 05/28/2013 1:38:59 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mr. Lucky
It's pretty mind-boggling, isn't it? The Monsanto has no competition and is going to control the world's food supply meme is pretty astounding coming from conservatives.

Unfortunately, these are the same people who think modern farmers are still keeping corn seed and that it makes sense to replant hybrid corn. Who knew reading a bunch of nonsense on the internet could make a person an expert in farming and biotechnology?

I expect these kinds of posts from Huffington and Food Democracy, but not from conservatives who should know better.

99 posted on 05/28/2013 1:50:35 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Monsanto, by the way, couldn't care less whether you saved and replanted the next generation of their seed corn. Hybrid seeds don't reproduce to type.

Golly, then I guess we are about to see a share holders lawsuit where the share holders of Monsanto sue management for misfeasance for wasting so much company money threatening and engaging in litigation.

/sarcasm

My point wasn't that Monsanto was hurt by seed saving, my point was that Monsanto is using the courts to destroy seed savers.

100 posted on 05/28/2013 2:14:29 PM PDT by Pilsner
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