Posted on 05/27/2013 9:44:48 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
The Boy Scouts woes continue as two atheist organizations have attacked their policy of requiring participants and leaders to acknowledge faith in God.
This illustrates the futility of conservative groups giving an inch to the Left. They WILL NOT go away and leave you alone. They will, instead, double their efforts once they see that you are weak enough to give in to one demand, until you submit to their entire agenda.
This is what transformational change looks like.
Not only by caving, but by even considering these as confrontations to consider, the Scouts have betrayed those young boys who look to them for moral guidance.
And such, I am sure, was the exact plan of those who infiltrated them.
Consider Sodom and Gomorrah, and the treatment of the Canaanites. The example of God, is that when dealing with evil, half-measures are inappropriate.
This was a pre-gospel era. A little thought in the Holy Spirit should tell us we don’t haul what was permitted by the Lord early in bible history into human mandates of a gospel era, except as cautionary examples of how the Lord deals directly with evildoers. We are not talking about half measures, we are talking about splitting the sin from sinners. It’s a whole new dimension and one that got little attention early in bible history. God did not make that the time for it. Now is the time for it.
Could be, which makes it all the more reason to be supported by the church and the parents.
The organization caved. It will be just a matter of time before there are queers in “leadership” positions. Of course, the atheists want a piece of the action. It won’t be too long before the final indignity ... girls.
Keep in mind, though, not the scouts nor scout masters nor parents voted. Their voting will be done via feet, wallets and law suits.
There still appears to be no bottom in sight for our “culture.” The long, gradual descent continues, unimpeded.
Please explain why you think this.
The LDS Church took a beating, from the inside and outside, for aggressively supporting Proposition 8 in CA during 2008. Since then, the Church has moved on to other battles in the cultural wars rather than to continue to take on the homosexual-rights activists for several reasons.
Church leadership felt like it was left holding the financial bag after other evangelical denominations failed to come through with promised aid in the fight against Proposition 8. Top church officials were heavily involved in the creation of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), the primary player over the last decade in the fight to outlaw gay unions.
Church leadership feared that continued support of anti-homosexualsexual marriage measures would continue to generate negative publicity which in turn would limit the ability of its farflung missionaries to engage potential converts.
The Church wanted to be more welcoming to its members who are afflicted with same-sex attraction.
There are 5 nationally prominent Mormons in the U.S. today.
1. Mitt Romney had advocated for homosexual membership in the BSA since 1994 when he was a member of the BSA National Executive Board. When he ran against Ted Kennedy for the Senate, he went to the left of Kennedy on homosexual issues. On his watch as governor of MA, it became the 1st state to legalize homosexual marriage. When he took over the business leadership of the SLC 2002 Winter Olympic Committee, he would not allow Boy Scouts to volunteer at Olympic venues. Boy Scouts volunteered in droves for the 1996 Atlanta Summer Olympics. LDS Church leadership did not want to harm Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign.
2. Harry Reed is a U.S. Senator (D-NV) and current Senate Majority Leader.
3. Glenn Beck is a libertarian/conservative talk radio host and media mogul. He announced his support for homosexual marriage in 2013.
4. Jon Huntsman Jr. is a past progressive governor (R-UT) and former ambassador to Red China under POTUS #44 BHO. In FEB 2013 he (1) announced his support of homosexual marriage and (2) signed the amicus brief of the plaintiff to oppose Californias Proposition 8.
5. Wayne Perry is the current BSA National President and co-owner of the Seattle Mariners. He personally pleaded the case with the Prophet of the LDS Church to support a change in BSAs membership policy to accept homosexuals.
I pulled the letter below from The Pink Swastika.
http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm
NOV 1992 NAMBLA sent a letter to BSA Chief Scout Executive Ben Love in which NAMBLA predicted that BSA would eventually succumb to homosexual demands. The letter was also published in the NOV, 1992 NAMBLA Bulletin.
Dear Mr. Love, (Chief Scout Executive, BSA)
At its 16th membership conference, held in Chicago, August 7-9-1992, the North American Man/Boy Love Association unanimously adopted the following resolution:
NAMBLA calls on the Boy Scouts of America to cease its discrimination against openly gay or lesbian persons in the appointment of its scout masters. This will permit scouts to be exposed to a variety of lifestyles and will permit more of those individuals who genuinely wish to serve boys to do so.
I feel especially honored to have been asked to alert you of this resolution. I have also been a scout and a scout leader and share with so many in NAMBLA affection for the movement.
We recognize, of course, that the action for which we call is inevitable. What a great added contribution your organization will make possible to all the boys and girls who participate in it when you take this step. May it be taken in the near future.
We share a common mission to bring greater understanding and light and purpose to the young as they grow. We invite you to join with us in cherishing individual integrity, and in seeking the opportunity for every boy and girl in our country to find their own truth. We encourage you to help every person associated with your organization to be able to express those values from themselves which to them represent for themselves the Good, the True, and the Beautiful. As we work together toward these ends Light will guide our way.
We express these sentiments most respectfully,
Very Cordially,
Leland Stevenson
Co-Recording Secretary, NAMBLA
OCT 1991 GS-USA national stated in a letter:
As a private organization, Girl Scouts of the U.S.A. respects the values and beliefs of each of its members and does not intrude into personal matters. Therefore, there are no membership policies on sexual preference. However, Girl Scouts of the U.S.A. has firm standards relating to the appropriate conduct of adult volunteers and staff. The Girl Scout organization does not condone or permit sexual displays of any sort by its members during Girl Scout activities, nor does it permit the advocacy or promotion of a personal lifestyle or sexual preference. These are private matters for girls and their families to address.
2/09/1993 In Lansing, MI, the GS-USA fired heterosexual employee Brenda Mailand after she refused to sign the following pledge: As an employee of the Michigan Capitol Girl Scout Council, you may not proactively inform members, parents of members, prospective members or parents of prospective members, or members of the general public (including media) of the Councils and GSUSAs position on sexual orientation.
10/23/1993 Delegates at the GS-USA national convention in Minneapolis, MN, voted 1,560 to 375 to allow girls to change their pledge of service to the spiritual power of their conscience - or none at all.
1997 - Nancy Manahans book, On My Honor: Lesbians Reflect on Their Scouting Experiences, was published. On My Honor included an essay titled All I Really Need to Know About Being a Lesbian I Learned at Girl Scout Camp. In a 2000 National Review Online editorial (10/23/2000, National Review magazine) titled The Cookie Crumbles, author Kathryn Jean Lopez wrote that the book was filled with coming-of-age stories sparked by gay encounters in the Girl Scouts. Lopez further reported that staffers contributing stories to the book claim that roughly 1 in 3 of the Girls Scouts paid professional staff is lesbian.
2009 GS-USA radically overhauled its program. Their older youth manuals were re-written to include environmental and feminist doctrines and proclaimed some historical female role models who were communists and/or lesbians. Religion and patriotism were de-emphasized. Planned Parenthood materials were also included.
6/03/2012 A Catholic News Agency article accused the GS-USA of having filled their National Leadership Team and Board of Directors with unwavering ideologues whose careers, non-profit work and philanthropic choices reflect a hefty commitment to liberal causes same-sex marriage, gay and lesbian rights, abortion rights, comprehensive sex education and girl power feminism.
>> There are 5 nationally prominent Mormons in the U.S. today.
Famous people become famous because they always put #1 first. I agree that the Mormons caved on this, but so did everyone else. The gay propaganda machine was just too powerful as it placed gay characters in every TV show, had popular singers come out, and flooded the news with pro-gay news (usually featuring “intolerant” religious people).
The bottom line now is, how many people will pull their son out of scouting and how many will just “accept” it so he can put Eagle Scout on his college application?
What has crossed my mind is this. Given the relatively low population of gays, and atheists for that matter, how many of them will actually join the Scouts? I would suspect not many.
So let's say for the sake of conjecture..maybe one or two per troop join. I actually think that would be a high estimate. And the Scouts stick to their original oath with no change. How would a young “afflicted” person hold up against the teachings and thoughts involved. Probably not many. Especially since a lot of them really don't deep down believe this tripe. It's just fashionable to do so in today's time.
If there are lawsuits...sorry guys...you knew what we were about. We allowed you membership..sorry you don't like it.
I don't think many really want to be scouts. Their parental units want lawsuits and to destroy an establishment that has done a lot of good in the past.
They need to cut off all federal funding as well. But with the lack of private funding and future participation that probably won't happen.
I guess I'm having an idealistic moment. The Gay Mafia and the Madelyn Murray O’Hare Coalition have won...yet again. Or maybe I'm just having a tantrum because this is so wrong.
It IS sooooo wrong.
LLS
At the risk of being a broken record I will repeat myself again.
This is God’s way of saying “THIS PROBLEM IS TOO BIG FOR YOUR HUMAN EFFORTS!!”
The homos (face mask of Hell) have sunk their teeth into what is almost their antithesis, a straight male Scouts that at least on paper is reverent to Judeo-Christianity, though technically allowing for Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims etc.
Now what will follow? A circular firing squad among conservatives with blame after blame about “who failed”? Various vengeful wishes on the homos which of course will never be realized or will land you in death row if they are? Or a renewed call on God the Father... “THIS TIME LORD WE REALLY MEAN IT!”
Slightly off-topic, but why do I see “God” as “G-d” around here so much?
Some followings of Christians follow after a Jewish custom which expanded upon reverence for the original Hebrew covenant name of the Lord, the one which is sometimes rendered Jehovah after the changed vowel points that Jewish scholars used to prevent its being accidentally read out loud. It was an extreme effort to prevent taking the Lord’s name in vain, basically. Some Jews carried this over to references to Deity in other languages than Hebrew. I believe it unnecessary to say “G-d” in contexts where the reference is seriously and thoughtfully intended, and in other contexts one shouldn’t refer to God anyhow, but as long as it isn’t being done sanctimoniously and pretentiously let’s be considerate to the consciences of those who do it.
“This is too big for your human efforts”
As usual, I agree wth God. And feel that more and more about many different things in these times.
Man can’t fix this...only He can.
And here’s a secret. We don’t have to wait for a time that God’s roulette wheel hits the lucky 7, to speak metaphorically about an idea some people may have in the back of their heads. We can start digging in RIGHT NOW. The first problem that the Lord wants to start getting solved is US. We’re sinners. We can only progress against sin if we get Godly power of righteousness, otherwise we only manage to make a big sin tangle and everyone loses. So we must dig in to Him. Maybe it seems more like crockpot than microwave oven sometimes, but nothing at all will happen without Him.
Last time there was a great awakening, it was because people became worried about going to hell.
This time, instead of worrying about going to hell, hell has come to us. Shall we take a warning and awaken again? I hope we will!
Thank you for your reply, but honestly, you lost me with your first sentence. If this has something to do with ancient Jewish traditions, fine, but I don’t see how it pertains to references to God in the context of a modern day discussion of something like Boy Scouts.
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