Go Galt and organize with like minded people at the local level (e.g, Tea Parties). Even then, expect TPTB to resort to the teachings of one of their most admired communists, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun - Mao Tse-Tung."
Posted on 05/26/2013 9:56:41 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
… (Please respond with thoughtful comments).
When we spend the better part of five months working so that the US government can take our hard earned money and re-distribute it to others in the form of: - Welfare - Unemployment - Social Security (to those who never contributed or are withdrawing more than they ever put in) - Medicare - any other number of wealth re-distribution programs Then that becomes the very definition of involuntary servitude.
I’m not saying that Congress can’t tax you, they absolutely can. However, if they spend it in these wealth re-distribution programs, then it becomes involuntary servitude.
... just looking for a way out of this mess.
I’ve often thought of redistribution of wealth as a form of slavery.
Good luck convincing all the takers, though. They *want* slaves.
I’ll make that argument.
Sorry, but I disagree.
Whether taxation constitutes involuntary servitude is a separate issue from what the taxed money is spent on.
If we had honest courts and judges, yes. Unfortunately, we don’t.
I have come to the opinion that the normal political process is no longer capable of solving or eliminating the various wealth transfer schemes. The politicians very lives demand wealth transfer.
Go Galt and organize with like minded people at the local level (e.g, Tea Parties). Even then, expect TPTB to resort to the teachings of one of their most admired communists, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun - Mao Tse-Tung."
If my tax money is spent on the military or the few other things the constitution gives the Fed gov’t authority over, I consider that money paid for something that benefits me that I could not otherwise do myself. But when I am forced to work and have my money taken to give to someone that else, I consider that forced servitude.
The stock answer to this is,”You voted the idiots in who passed this sort of legislation.” IOW your fault.
As my tagline says, socialism is slavery. Yes, it should apply but it won’t.
All the more reason to hang them.
federal taxes are to support the defense and infrastructure of the country
0bamacare does not fall under either of these
neither do 0bamaphones, cash for clunkers, free internet, housing, etc
of course, i’m now suppose to work 61% of my life supporting the fedgov. 65% of the federal spending, or about 40% of my life, is spent on entitlement programs.
i didn’t volunteer nor did i sign a contract stating i would do such a thing. i’m supposed to just freely do it
WTF is that about??
Regarding income, the 13th Amendment is superseded by the 16th Amendment.
How is the transfer of my money to others (in the for of services and/or $$) as opposed to financing those Constitutional obligations of the gov’t any different than them transferring my car to Jose because he “needs” it??
I think it makes a great difference what they spend tax revenues on. 10-20% of what they do is legit (defense, law enforcement, infrastructure) and they rest is STEALING!
Not unless you want to reestablish sole father custody of kids and the end of the support/alimony, adultery/cohabitation regime. ;-)
Not too sure of your argument, but PASSING on perpetual DEBT to Future Generations that receive absolutely NO BENEFIT from, is by definition Involuntary Servitude.
It failed.
You could also argue the Fifth Amendment (since you have to report your own income, and any errors can be considered a crime), the Fourteenth Amendment (how can taxation be "equal" when the wealthy pay a higher percentage than others?), and even the First Amendment (my tax money is going toward causes directly repugnant to my religion, thereby prohibiting the free exercise thereof).
But none of those arguments have succeeded. Not because they're illogical, but because the Powers that Be have decided that they WILL tax incomes, so all that's left is the justification, regardless of how many logical hoops one has to jump through to arrive there.
The 16th Amendment is the source of the greatest part of our problems as a nation. Eliminate it, start fresh with something limited (I favor a flat tax, others prefer a consumption tax) and you would have something. Good luck. When we break away from the USSA, I will recommend that.
shrink your footprint as much as possible.
there will probably come a time you need to do a lot more.
But to invalidate the income tax on constitutional grounds would be to, in effect, invalidate our entire government, which would lead to a collapse of our polity, our debt obligations around the world, and the global economy. So rather than rule honestly and admit that income tax is illegal (unconstitutional), the courts have taken the cowards' way out and concocted some tortured "logic" about how slavery isn't slavery and how theft isn't theft.
There is no valid LEGAL defense for income tax. But law does not exist in a theoretical vacuum, and it can only selectively ignore reality.
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