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IRS Move to Dump Lerner 'Clearly the Tip of the Iceberg'
newsmax ^ | 5/23/13 | Paul Scicchitano and Todd Beamon

Posted on 05/24/2013 5:10:34 AM PDT by bestintxas

FreedomWorks President Matt Kibbe tells Newsmax that Thursday’s decision by the embattled IRS to replace Lois Lerner over the agency’s targeting scandal is “clearly the tip of the iceberg” along with other administrative casualties that have been offered up thus far by the Obama administration.

“It doesn’t go far enough and whenever you see government officials lawyering up and pleading the Fifth you know that the crisis and the scandal goes far deeper than what appears to be on the surface,” Kibbe said in an exclusive interview.

On Wednesday, Lerner invoked her Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination, refusing to testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which was investigating whether the division that Lerner oversaw targeted tea party and conservative groups for added scrutiny through the 2012 election and as far back as 2010.

“Clearly the IRS is in a state of crisis right now. But I don’t think this story is about any individual within the IRS and their bad behavior,” Kibbe explained. “I think the real scandal is a culture of intimidation that appears to be widespread and accepted practice within the IRS.”

Other conservative groups targeted by the IRS also told Newsmax that they too believe the scandal goes beyond Lerner.

“We need to continue the independent investigation — and I don’t believe that Mrs. Lerner is the only one responsible for it,” said Everett Wilkinson, a founder of the Tea Party Patriots.

Wilkinson, chairman of the National Liberty Federation, described Lerner’s suspension as “a first step.”

“We’re seeing that the White House knew and, perhaps, elements of the administration may have called for or promoted the idea of using the IRS as a political tool," he said. “We think this chain of abuse goes all the way up to the commander in chief.”

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KEYWORDS: everettwilkinson; gettherope; impeachnow; incometaxes; irs; lerner; loislerner; newsmax; paulscicchitano; taxcutsandjobsact; taxreform; tcja; toddbeamon
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We need that special prosecutor and it looks like right now that it won't be Holder doing it but his replacement.
1 posted on 05/24/2013 5:10:34 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

I sound like a broken record, but we need to just keep connecting the dots. That line will lead right to the White House. When the talk of serious prison time begins, lower-level folks will start singing.


2 posted on 05/24/2013 5:15:03 AM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: bestintxas
We need that special prosecutor and it looks like right now that it won't be Holder doing it but his replacement.

what we need is a congressional investigation. Check the history of special prosecutors before you put too much faith in one.

3 posted on 05/24/2013 5:16:47 AM PDT by quimby
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To: bestintxas

I guess billionaire Wussa (Issa) wimped out?


4 posted on 05/24/2013 5:18:45 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (He thwarts the plans of the crafty so that their hands achieve no success...Job 5:12)
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To: bestintxas

Obama’s IRS rigged the election for the democrats/socialists in Congress and for Obama. Obama’s IRS prevented conservative groups from getting started.

here is a link shows IRS audited Romney donors.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3023043/posts

Make that Lerner witch testify

What a horrible creature, typical democrat


5 posted on 05/24/2013 5:20:28 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: bestintxas
I think the issue here is that if you have morals and virtue you do whats lawful and good. Its easier to be be moral than corrupt cause you dont have to hide and be shamefull.
God works thru us that believe and he will guide those with faith in him to bring heaven on earth.
6 posted on 05/24/2013 5:20:31 AM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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.....chairman of the National Liberty Federation, described Lerner’s suspension as “a first step.” “We’re seeing that the White House knew and, perhaps, elements of the administration may have called for or promoted the idea of using the IRS as a political tool. We think this chain of abuse goes all the way up to the commander in chief.......”

WH records show IRS's Shulman was there 118 times----when asked by Congress, he said he went to the WH Easter Egg roll.

Nice to know the WH celebrates the resurrection of Jesus Christ all year long, isn't it (cackle)?

NEED TO KNOW ASAP How many times did other IRS officials vist the WH under the Bushes, Clinton, Carter, etc?

7 posted on 05/24/2013 5:20:36 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: bestintxas

NO, a select committee from Congress is our only hope of getting anywhere near the truth. Anything done through any office of this administration is corrupt, period. It will be just another fire fighter for the entire culture of corruption that is Mordor on the Potomac.

Save a few exceptions like Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and somewhat Rand Paul in the Senate and the likes of Trey Gowdy, Ron DeSantis and Ghomert in the House, I have absolutely no confidence in the rest.

The shame is the I am about six miles from being in DeSantis’ district because my Rep, Crenshaw, is the mouse that roared and a one tune fiddle, without a fiddle.


8 posted on 05/24/2013 5:22:18 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Liz

Funny that Carney’s repeated go-to line is that the IRS is an independent agency......


9 posted on 05/24/2013 5:22:38 AM PDT by GotMojo
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To: bestintxas

What’s the real story here? I read Lerner was on Administrative Leave with Pay, NOT dumped. In addition this Administration has a habit of just finding a new place in Government for their “co-conspirators”, so will it be back to the FEC for Lerner?


10 posted on 05/24/2013 5:23:06 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Kharis13

Two dots that need connecting are Lois and the union or its president with her. We know the Bolo list was initiated the day after the union pres visited the potus.
Is Lois a member of the union or their advisory ? Makes a big difference how we perceive this. Have they set her up to take the fall for their WH approved actions? Is she keeping quiet to save her life?


11 posted on 05/24/2013 5:24:42 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.u)
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To: bestintxas
It's becoming clear that the US government and government agencies across the board are a petri dish for the most greedy, malicious, biased, unprincipled and pathetically stupid creeps on earth.

Where did this mentality of ‘I don't know or care about the rules’ come from?

Don't answer that... because I know very well where it came from.

12 posted on 05/24/2013 5:24:47 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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When the talk of serious prison time begins, lower-level folks will start singing.

Just one firing might do the trick. That's why these people aren't just keeping their jobs. They're getting promoted.

13 posted on 05/24/2013 5:25:02 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: swamprebel

Supposedly she is in paid admin leave....like a vacation for being on the team. She keeps her mouth shut or says nothing harmful, she either finds herself in another agency at her level or higher or perhaps if she has her time in, finds a position at some dem owned company like Progressive Insurance or AARP.

If she does not play ball with the Obama tribe, she will be our next ambassador to Benghazi.


14 posted on 05/24/2013 5:28:48 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: bestintxas

Obama’s IRS rigged the election for the democrats/socialists in Congress and for Obama. Obama’s IRS prevented conservative groups from getting started.

here is a link shows IRS audited Romney donors.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3023043/posts

Obama stole the election. Impeach and imprison Obama

Make that Lerner witch testify

What a horrible creature, typical democrat


15 posted on 05/24/2013 5:28:53 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: bestintxas

She’s on “Admin leave”. Does that mean she still gets a paycheck? Also, does anyone know whether or not she has Union ties?


16 posted on 05/24/2013 5:30:48 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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Funny that Carney’s repeated go-to line is that the IRS is an independent agency......

Carney makes it sound as though the IRS is a private company formed by a group of entrepreneurs.

17 posted on 05/24/2013 5:31:18 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; All

If they’re union members they can’t be fired. If she is a member of the union her lawyers are provided by the union. She can be placed on paid leave but not fired while needing legal representation.

We re not looking at the big picture but focusing on her. Which is precisely what the WH wants!


18 posted on 05/24/2013 5:33:31 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.u)
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To: bestintxas
This is Daniel Werfel, the new (Acting) Head of the IRS, talking to O. I heard or read somewhere that he asked Lois Lerner for her resignation. She refused and so he put her on administrative leave. (Don't take that to the bank, I've not seen/heard it confirmed).

I suppose it's possible that you can't actually just fire someone without some drawn out process but I wonder. In any case, he wouldn't have done this without an Obama go-ahead. It's finger in the dike time at the White House.


19 posted on 05/24/2013 5:34:37 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: bestintxas

This is Act II of the drama wherein Lord Obama throws sacrificial lambs to the wolves to show he is a hero and continue to distract attention from the Bengazi scandal which, if investigated would keep Lady Hillary out of the White House in 2016.

Lord Obama will play his hand to come off looking like the savior of the people and in gratitude for hs sterling rectitude they will elect Lady Hillary t be their queen.

Unless someone looks under the rug of Bengazi...


20 posted on 05/24/2013 5:35:14 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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