Boy Scouts at the Brink

Meeting Thursday in Grapevine, Texas, the National Council of the Boy Scouts of America will decide whether it will retain or revise its historic membership policy on the issue of homosexuality. The 1,400 voting members of the B.S.A. National Council hold the future of one of America’s most iconic organizations in their hands. In reality, they are not only deciding a matter of membership policy. They are actually deciding the future of the entire organization.

The culture wars came to the Boy Scouts many years ago. For the last few decades, the Boy Scouts have had to fight battles with both secularists and homosexual activists. The secular challenge came first, with demands that the Scouts drop their historic requirement that boys affirm belief in God as a criterion for membership. Soon thereafter, the demand for the full inclusion of homosexual members and leaders followed. The Scouts have had to fight legal battles both locally and nationally, costing the venerable organization millions of dollars in legal fees. In 2000, the B.S.A. prevailed at the U.S. Supreme Court when the nation’s highest court ruled that the Boy Scouts had a constitutional right to exclude openly gay boys and leaders from the organization, so long as that exclusion is based in one of the organization’s core convictions — an “expressive message.” The B.S.A. won the case because that is exactly what they claimed. They argued that excluding openly homosexual boys and leaders from Scouting was necessary and required by the Scout Oath.

Last year, the B.S.A.’s board affirmed the policy in no uncertain terms. Bob Mazzuca, then the organization’s chief executive, said: “The vast majority of the parents of youth we serve value their right to address the issues of same-sex orientation within their family, with spiritual advisors and at the appropriate time and in the right setting.” In other words, the B.S.A.’s chief executive said that the board recognized that “the vast majority of parents” did not want the policy changed. Deron Smith, the B.S.A.’s national spokesman said that a special committee asked to advise the national board “came to the conclusion that this policy is absolutely the best policy for the Boy Scouts.”

That was less than a year ago. Then, just a few months later, everything changed. Earlier this year, the B.S.A. announced a proposed change that would remove the restriction as a matter of national policy, leaving the decision about the inclusion of openly homosexual scouts and leaders to local units. This proposal, rushed after a leak within the organization let the word out to the public, was greeted with a firestorm of protest. As many predicted, that policy proposal went nowhere. A local option on an issue of this importance would satisfy no one and would lead to geographical problems that would be insurmountable. Furthermore, parents would be in the position of having to interview local Scout units in order to determine which did and did not accept openly homosexual scouts.

Shortly after that proposal was released, it was withdrawn. Then the B.S.A. announced that it would ask people from all levels of scouting, including parents, to participate in a survey on the issue. That survey, filled with strangely awkward and candid questions, was received by the B.S.A. a few weeks ago. Then, last month, the B.S.A. announced its new proposal, and the National Council will decide its fate on Thursday.

The new proposal calls for the inclusion of openly homosexual boys within the Boy Scouts, but retains the exclusion of openly-gay adults. For a second time, the B.S.A. attempted to find a compromise solution that would, at least, buy the organization some time. But, for a second time, the organization actually created an impossible and unworkable proposal that, once again, will please no one.

The problems with the new policy are legion. In the first place, it fundamentally surrenders the very “expressive message” that had been recognized by the Supreme Court back in 2000. Surrendering that core conviction is, in itself, both a moral and a legal disaster. There is no reason to believe that the federal courts will now allow the B.S.A. to exclude gay adult leaders if the organization abandons its “expressive message” that homosexuality is incompatible with the values of Scouting. Some external observers have suggested that the B.S.A., fully aware of their legal surrender, just expects a court to require them to allow openly-homosexual adults as leaders, freeing the B.S.A. board from responsibility for making that decision. That will not wash. In reality, they are making that decision now.

The other problems are complex and awkward. How, exactly, are openly-gay boys to be included in the activities of Scouting? We are talking about boys who will now be expected to participate in everything from camping trips to travel with boys who are openly gay. Boys of these ages just might be the least equipped of all God’s creatures to deal with the complexities of the situation. Most parents are likely to decide that, all things considered, this is just not something they want imposed on their sons.

The B.S.A., to its credit, has made clear that all forms of sexual activity are incompatible with the values of Scouting. But, while this is clearly meant to preclude any form of sexual contact, sexual activity is a far broader category, including how an individual presents himself to others. Given the inclusion of openly gay Scouts, any advocacy of belief that homosexuality is sinful will not be tolerated.

What about transgender and “gender questioning” scouts? Public high schools across the country are now dealing with the fact that a student born one gender can demand to play on a sports team of the opposite gender, if a transgender identity is claimed. How will the B.S.A. deal with that issue? It is hard to imagine that their inclusion of openly gay Scouts can avoid the necessary inclusion of transgender and gender questioning youth. Legal authorities increasingly tell organizations and schools that if a young person claims to be a boy (or a girl) the youth must be recognized as whatever gender the youth claims. How is that going to work at your local Boy Scout troop?

Add to this the lack of credibility in a policy that will allow a boy to join the Scouts and progress through ranks, but then require his exit the day he turns 18. Neither side in this controversy can respect that inherent aspect of the proposed policy.

The religious liberty issues are already urgent. About 70% of all B.S.A. units are chartered by churches and religious organizations, the majority of which believe that homosexuality is a sin. Some units chartered by Christian churches require boys to affirm a specific faith commitment and a set of moral guidelines. Will those now be forbidden by national B.S.A. policy?

This policy proposal is a disaster. The B.S.A.’s national leadership has brought their organization to the brink of catastrophe. At the same time, we can recognize that the B.S.A. has been the target of unrelenting pressure for decades now. Press reports indicate that some of the members of the national board have been threatened with shareholder action if they, as corporate leaders, do not deliver on the demand for change.

Furthermore, we must sympathize with the organization’s rightful hope to include as many boys as possible within its honored and respected program. At this point, we should remember that homosexual scouts and scouts with any number of sexual confusions have always been involved in Scouting. But this new policy relates to openly homosexual youth. Bringing that advocacy within an organization for boys is both unwise and calamitous.

A recent Washington Post/ABC News poll indicated that 63% of Americans believe that the B.S.A. should welcome gay scouts and 56% would lift the ban on gay adult leaders. But the survey undertaken by the B.S.A. revealed that of the 200,000 parents, Scouting leaders, and Scouts surveyed, 61% supported maintaining the current policy of excluding gays. Will the members of the B.S.A. National Council listen to their own constituency? If so, the policy will not change.

I am a former Boy Scout who gained much from my experience as a boy in Scouting. I greatly respect the work of countless volunteers and the involvement of legions of boys in the program. I understand the pressures the Boy Scouts of America now faces, and I can sympathize with the board’s attempt to find an escape from such a public controversy. But this proposed policy spells disaster for the Scouts, and, if adopted, that disaster will not be long in coming. The policy proposal the B.S.A. National Council will face on Thursday would surrender principle and forfeit the future of one of the nation’s most honored organizations. The B.S.A. now stands on the brink of disaster. The future of the movement now rests in the hands of the only people who can turn the Boy Scouts back from the brink.

Albert Mohler is the 9th, and current, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (Southern Baptist Convention) in Louisville, KY.

For those coming late to the party, this is an excellent summation of events that have transpired.

Homosexuals and “Progressives” have no desire to join the Boy Scouts and you not see any difference in supposedly “gay” scouts coming out. Just like marriage, they will not avail themselves of this supposedly new advantage.

Rather, their actions are about destruction - take down the key organizations of tradition - church, boy scouts, military, marriage - so that the rest of society can not find stability there.

Its a kind of societal vandalism - I don’t want to use it, but I don’t want you to use it either, so I am going to deface and destroy it.

BSA is a private organization. They have the right to set their standards for membership.

The leftist nazis want their way and will stop at nothing to force everyone to conform.

oh they’ll change the policy, and good parents will keep their kids away from them, and the BSA will become a sad parody of itself. kinda like a monty python version of boy scouts on parade, etc..
and their membership will decline, and nobody will know why, and within a short time they will cease to exist.

I believe no compromise is the order of the day. The BSA shouldn’t even consider it, and am concerned about the BSA leadership that they are.

If the BSA has to tighten their belt due lack of funding, or has to be reduced to local volunteer organizations then so be it. America will rise out of all of this Leftist BS in the future, and the BSA will be able to grow again without such precedence, and history to overcome.

BSA should stand with their convictions.

Most parents are likely to decide that, all things considered, this is just not something they want imposed on their sons.

Count me in that group. I will yank both my boys out of the BSA if they change their policy on this issue. A parent has to protect their children.

Not to be a pessimist, but I suspect that the BSA will yield. There is a lot of political pressure being placed upon them, and I think they will give in.

Sadly, it will cost them dearly as Mohler has clearly stated.

My oldest grandson is an Eagle Scout, serving on the Carrier Bush. His younger brother is a high school sophomore working
on his Eagle project. I tell you this, if the scouts turn gay, knowing their dad, the BSA will be dead to them. Plus their scout troop already has plans to disband if this happens.

But that will suit their enemies just fine. That is their ultimate goal; to eliminate any group that shines a light on their evil.

You’ve got it right. This is exactly what will happen.

I concur with the others. BSA will commit institutional suicide if they change their policy and go along with the winds of the tyranny of political correctness. Our organization is politically incorrect. Deal with it.

This week is really turning out bad.

My closest friend and Assistant Scoutmaster/troop co-founder moved due to a transfer (Army)
My dad died
My car pool partner and friend just quit
I got food poisoning
The organization to which I’ve devoted ten years and countless tens of thousands of volunteer hours is going to become stupid.

Admit the homo boys into scouting today and it will be homo Scout leaders next. Now wait a second,..how many homosexual boys do you know that really want to get into scouting? How many lawsuits have been filed by parents that wanted their homosexual sons to be admitted. Probably none. It’s not about fairness; it’s political BS because they want to either have access to young boys, destroy an institution that creates masculine men and has Christian values, or out of spite to prove they can do it as a warning signal to other conservative elements in their way? We know the answer. Stand firm BSA and give the faggots a good wedgie. The people will support you if you take a stand and prove that you believe in what you teach your scouts; to be brave, courageous, and morally straight. If you bow to the Gaystapo you are done. Finished. No more support from conservative groups at all so think carefully before you vote.

Years ago in my will I included a generous bequest to my church. Unfortunately the church to which my family has belonged for generations has walked away from the teachings of the Bible and they hymns I loved as a child. A year ago I removed the church from my will.

I also had in my will a generous bequest to the university where I received the education that helped me prepare for a successful business career. Over the past two decades it has become a bastion of political correctness and is no longer a place where I would send a young adult to receive a quality education.

Given my disappointment with my alma mater, a year ago I asked my attorney to redraft my will to shift most of the charitable bequest to the Boy Scouts of America. I appears I may soon be calling my attorney again for another revision.

The people putting pressure on the Boy Scouts are a small minority. They don’t want to join the scouts or become leaders. They don’t care if this private institution has to change it’s core values. They just want to destroy anybody or anything that gets in their way of foisting their homosexuality onto society.

I say leave the scouts alone and go start your own organization for gay kids. My family has been involved in scouting for a couple of generations and those of us who are still alive, are all against changing the high principles and standards by which they have always operated. I am an Eagle scout for 50 years now and would not send my medal back like some have done recently but I will not have any respect for the scouts anymore if they buckle under this pressure. The national directors should stand up for what they believe in or resign. They will do more harm than good by changing the rules.

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