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Reality Check Exclusive: Cincinnati agent giving orders in IRS scandal?
fox19.com ^ | 5/21/2013 | Ben Swann -

Posted on 05/21/2013 8:35:29 PM PDT by Nachum

CINCINNATI, OH (FOX19) -

The claim that the ongoing IRS scandal is limited to low level employees is falling apart.

The six Cincinnati workers we have identified, who sent scrutinizing letters to conservative groups with words including "patriot, liberty, tea party or 9-12" in their names are Mitchel Steele, Carly Young, Joseph Herr, Stephen Seok, Liz Hofacre and a woman identified only as Ms. Richards.

But was all of this done at the hands of a small group of Cincinnati employees working together? During Friday's congressional hearing, that appeared to be the theme. Now, that explanation just became less likely.

Thanks to two FOX19 sources connected to the IRS, we now understand the chain of command for these workers.

Mitchel Steele, Carly Young, Joseph Herr and Liz Hofacre are IRS agents. Stephen Seok is a supervisor IRS agent.

But according to the IRS employee directory that FOX19 has obtained exclusively, each of these agents has a different manager and then above them a different territory manager.

(Excerpt) Read more at fox19.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: agent; cincinnati; gettherope; impeachnow; irs; loislerner; ohio; scandal
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To: Nachum

-— But according to the IRS employee directory that FOX19 has obtained exclusively, ——

Wow. Tough to get an org chart. Someone did some real digging.

-— each of these agents has a different manager and then above them a different territory manager. ——

To the surprise of no one. So what are their names?


21 posted on 05/21/2013 9:09:04 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: onyx

He was briefly on Greta Talked about Lois and iihc said they’d benn taking depositions today. Wish I knew where to looks


22 posted on 05/21/2013 9:10:38 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Nachum

Flip just one or two of these clowns and the dominoes will REALLY start to fall — right on the White Hut!!

I mean, what the hell, that’s how they work US over!


23 posted on 05/21/2013 9:11:06 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Nachum

More popcorn. Must get more popcorn!!


24 posted on 05/21/2013 9:12:18 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: hoosiermama

Oh, thanks very much. I didn’t watch Greta.


25 posted on 05/21/2013 9:12:32 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Nachum
But according to the IRS employee directory that FOX19 has obtained exclusively, each of these agents has a different manager and then above them a different territory manager.

That is important because while it may sound reasonable to the average person that these workers began targeting groups on their own, the IRS structure is designed to prevent that.

Here is how that works.

When an application for tax exempt status comes into the IRS, agents have 270 days to work through that application. If the application is not processed within those 270 days it automatically triggers flags in the system. When that happens, individual agents are required to input a status update on that individual case once a month, every month until the case is resolved.

Keep in mind, at least 300 groups were targeted out of Cincinnati alone. Those applications spent anywhere from 18 months to nearly 3 years in the system and some still don't have their non-profit status. 300 groups multiplied by at least 18 months for each group, means thousands of red flags would have been generated in the system.

Whoa! There goes the "rogue agents" excuse!

The whole Cincinnati chain-of-command HAD to be in on it. And, more than likely, it extended well up the chain-of-command in Washington, as well.

Fox 19 in Cinti deserves some accolades for actually doing some digging and hard-nosed reporting.

26 posted on 05/21/2013 9:14:52 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: onyx

Different managers.

Oh, oh.


All provided “directives” from the IRS legal team in D.C. Makes you kind wonder whether Obama ever issued an obscure Executive Order...


27 posted on 05/21/2013 9:23:38 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: hoosiermama

Did I hear Issa say that they took several depositions today?


Yes, he was deposing operatives from the Cincinnati office as well as Virginia I believe.


28 posted on 05/21/2013 9:24:53 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

THAT would be delicious.


29 posted on 05/21/2013 9:25:07 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

THAT would be delicious.


mmm mmm mmm!


30 posted on 05/21/2013 9:26:58 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Read the article

May not have had to did far. Neighbor? Relative? Old friend from high school? Being local has its perks. You always know someone who knows someone who had once worked for a local business who still know people

It’s the reason Fox etc has local stations!

The local reporters in Cinncinnati have done exceptional work!


31 posted on 05/21/2013 9:28:28 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: okie01

hole-y buckets! No wonder those IRS clowns were stammering wrecks today. This is HUGE!

**adds popcorn to grocery list**


32 posted on 05/21/2013 9:29:08 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Hotlanta Mike

LOL.


33 posted on 05/21/2013 9:30:18 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Nachum

And the conveyer belt full of chocolate-covered scandals suddenly goes just a little bit faster...

34 posted on 05/21/2013 9:31:04 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: onyx

And you likewise, dear!

Here, there, or in the air as we used to say in the day!


35 posted on 05/21/2013 9:31:27 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: onyx

The reason the WH called in journa list tonight. ????
The other shoe. Or. Are we getting the galoshes for the first pair?


36 posted on 05/21/2013 9:32:11 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: One Name

Thank you so much!


37 posted on 05/21/2013 9:32:36 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Nachum

38 posted on 05/21/2013 9:33:12 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Nachum

My, my. What an interesting find. BTT


39 posted on 05/21/2013 9:34:17 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Sequoyah101
Someone will break to protect his / her butt.

Promise them some scary prison terms, and they will *all* break. None of them are fighters, and there is simply no reason for them to fall on their swords protecting the Dear Leader. There is no chance to somehow incentivize them now - they are all under a microscope.

So far only one of them pretends to fight. This will pass as soon as other witnesses suddenly start recalling that it was exactly her who ordered the whole thing. Remaining silent is not a good strategy when fifty witnesses are trying to outdo each other in piling it up on you. So she will talk, trying to defend herself - and thus passing the blame upward; where else would it go?

40 posted on 05/21/2013 9:35:02 PM PDT by Greysard
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