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Makes sense...explosive stuff.
1 posted on 05/21/2013 1:01:09 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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Wow.

You don’t arm your enemy and then expect them to treat you like a friend. You would think RATS would have figured that out. But noooooooo.


2 posted on 05/21/2013 1:09:43 AM PDT by petitfour
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"He added that he and his colleagues think the leaking of General David Petraeus’ affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell was timed to silence the former CIA chief on these matters."

General Petraeus should have known better than to join an administration as criminal in nature as this one.

3 posted on 05/21/2013 1:11:49 AM PDT by wmileo
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"Stevens’ mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA."

Illegal. State Department can't do that, see: Iran Contra.

5 posted on 05/21/2013 1:12:05 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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This might be what the WH is reportedly sitting on that has them “terrified.”


6 posted on 05/21/2013 1:12:43 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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Wait...you mean 0bamaClintonRice lied when they said that Stevens was in Benghazi to “modernize a hospital”?


7 posted on 05/21/2013 1:13:37 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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I find it difficult to believe they would be that stupid. I don’t find it difficult to believe that we were trying to buy the man-portable anti-aircraft missiles the rebels secured when they overthrew the regime. There were thousands of SA-7’s and other versions in country before the uprising ever began.

NATO had full air superiority in Libya and that is a large part of what allowed the rebels (likely worse people than the regime) to win the ground war. I fail to see the need or advantage of giving stinger missiles to the rebels. It would not make sense and the risks are too great. What if they shot down NATO aircraft? OTOH - I can see our State Department and CIA attempting to secure items like this that were all of a sudden all over the place.

Big story if true, but color me skeptical. The State Department does not possess stinger missiles - the Defense Department does. I would be stunned if they could keep that quiet - it only takes one whistleblower.

The part about Africom having assets in place to act quickly is likely in my opinion and the failure to act remains the most surprising part of the Benghazi story to me. My best guess is that someone in the White House decided based on known facts at the time that the political risks of a failed rescue operation outweighed the rewards of rescuing our people. They likely thought nobody had been killed and if we rescued folks the real story would come out that they were paying massive amounts of cash to the rebels we supported to buy the anti-aircraft stuff.

Speaking of that.... wonder what happened to all that cash? A few clever men could create an attack like this and possibly walk away with millions - especially if that is why Stevens was in town. I will take my tinfoil hat off now.


8 posted on 05/21/2013 1:15:06 AM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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9 posted on 05/21/2013 1:16:47 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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Pretty wild stuff, but it does tie up the loose ends (including HRC’s “concussion”).


10 posted on 05/21/2013 1:18:28 AM PDT by ravinson
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Still haven’t heard testimony of anyone that was in the ground. There were 30+ at the consulate and/or annex. Where are the Repubs on this?


17 posted on 05/21/2013 1:33:27 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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Easier explanation

The Obama campaign took money from Al-Queda, Hezbulla or the Muslim Brotherhood in the election. Stevens was there to negociates the payback for that


22 posted on 05/21/2013 1:57:56 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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Both Hitlery and the Clown need to be diminished beyond electoral influence or redemption.


25 posted on 05/21/2013 2:19:08 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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If this is true I guess Glenn Beck had it right . He said it was an arms exchange and buyback. You know, one of those rightwing conspiracy theory thingys.


27 posted on 05/21/2013 2:26:46 AM PDT by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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"Makes sense...explosive stuff."

Perhaps, but we have theorized worse here in FR, already - such as transferring poison gas to the Syrian rebels to use against Assad and blame on him in a false flag operation (the counter was that WMDs were already in Syria) or transferring weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood for shipment to the Gaza strip to be used to attack Israel, or a botched kidnapping to set up an exchange for the blind Sheik, for instance.

28 posted on 05/21/2013 2:29:00 AM PDT by Truth29
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Well, Her Hindness pushing for arming people who tied in with the Muslim Brotherhood when Weiner’s wife’s (her personal assistant) mother is tied into the Muslim Sisterhood (kinda the MB’s ladies’ auxiliary), and every destabilized regime in North Africa ended up in MB hands...well, that isn’t a surprise, it’s a syndrome.


32 posted on 05/21/2013 2:53:04 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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Makes sense...

Yes.

Al Qaeda with Stingers is a sobering thought. Thanks, low-info voters!

38 posted on 05/21/2013 3:21:24 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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Former diplomats, hmmm....one of whom served in Iraq in 2004....hmmm.. with Petraeus?....hmmm....


44 posted on 05/21/2013 3:30:02 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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“.....was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming “insurgents” with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.”

Whoaaa! If this is true then it kinda explains the rumor that the CIA is upset for taking it on the chin. They were against the missiles being given in the first place, they’re over ruled, then their explanation of what happened is altered, and they’re blamed.

My only question...in fact many are asking...General Petreaus...have you no courage to stand up and tell the truth? Why are you silent? Why are you in your silence supporting the people who betrayed you?


48 posted on 05/21/2013 3:40:04 AM PDT by nikos1121
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If true, what is being revealed here could complete the circle-it could give us the answer to the question as to why, up until now not satisfactorily answered, there never was any thought given to rescuing those in danger after the ambassador was murdered.

So, we would then have at least two dead Americans who died in the name of protecting dear leader’s election chances.

Extra-legal activity? Check.

Cover-up? Check.

Conspiracy? Check.

Motive? Check.

Treason. Provable treason. Hillary and Obama.


49 posted on 05/21/2013 3:47:27 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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“...but Ham decided to disobey and did so anyway, whereupon the White House “called his deputy and had the deputy threaten to relieve Ham of his command.” “

Please, someone help me here. I thought Ham denied this. So, Ham sent a rescue team that was only hours away? What happened, was the rescue team brought back? Did they embark?

It makes sense to me, from the way the navy seals and other rescue teams opporate, that these forces are on alert 24/7. They deploy in minutes to anywhere. Would make sense that at some central command we would know immediately who was the closest. With all the ships in the area, you would think one was minutes if not an hour or two away.

I’M ASKING. IS THERE NO ONE IN OUR MILITARY WHO WILL COME FORTH AND TELL THE TRUTH? ARE YOU THAT AFRAID OF LOSING YOUR PENSION, BEING AUDITED BY THE IRS ETC? WHERE IS OUR STONEWALL JACKSON, TECUMSUH SHERMAN?

WHERE IS PATTON?


51 posted on 05/21/2013 3:52:52 AM PDT by nikos1121
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Treason is the reason......

Selling heat seeking missiles to an enemy who has already killed 3000 Americans is T-R-E-A-S-O-N!

Time for some hemp neckties.


57 posted on 05/21/2013 4:12:26 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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