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FOX CABLE NEWS IS REPORTING 24 3RD GRADERS HAVE PERISHED IN OKLAHOMA.
FOX NEWS ^ | 5/20/2013 | Fox News

Posted on 05/20/2013 4:54:37 PM PDT by stockpirate

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 3rdgraders; deathtoll; moore; notbreakingnews; oklahoma; storm; vanity
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To: freeandfreezing

Not exactly. Here in Dallas, the bedrock can be 30 feet down. Texas soil is notorious for expanding and contracting. As the saying goes, it’s not will you have foundation damage, but how much? Imagine what that does to a basement or cellar.


341 posted on 05/20/2013 7:35:52 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: Rodamala
Reason #327,451 to homeschool.

Comments like yours on a thread like this are in horrible taste. You are blaming parents of children who died.

Hundreds, if not thousands of homes were destroyed. They don't have basements in that part of the country. I'll just leave it at that...

343 posted on 05/20/2013 7:41:17 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Barack Hussein 0bama has American blood on HIS hands!)
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To: stockpirate
There are no words to express this terrible loss in Oklahoma.

In Minnesota, Zach Sobiech, 18, passed away this morning, surrounded by family and friends. Zach wrote a song for himself and his family.

God bless his loved ones and friends left behind and all the grieving families left in Oklahoma. I have no right to dedicate Zach's touching song to the innocents lost today. But I feel a big hole. If only they had a little bit more time with each other.

Listen to "Clouds"

The lyrics to 'Clouds' :

Well I fell down, down, down

Into this dark and lonely hole

There was no one there to care about me anymore

And I needed a way to climb and grab a hold of the edge

You were sitting there holding a rope.

And we'll go up, up, up

But I'll fly a little higher

We'll go up in the clouds because the view is a little nicer

Up here my dear

It won't be long now, it won't be long now.

When I get back on land

Well I'll never get my chance

Be ready to live and it'll be ripped right out of my hands

Maybe someday we'll take a little ride

We'll go up, up, up and everything will be just fine.

And we'll go up, up, up

But I'll fly a little higher

We'll go up in the clouds because the view is a little nicer

Up here my dear.

It won't be long now, it won't be long now

If only I had a little bit more time

If only I had a little bit more time with you.

We could go up, up, up

And take that little ride

And sit there holding hands

And everything would be just right

And maybe someday I'll see you again

We'll float up in the clouds and we'll never see the end.

And we'll go up, up, up

But I'll fly a little higher

We'll go up in the clouds because the view is a little nicer

Up here my dear

It won't be long now, it won't be long now.

BY ZACH SOBIECH


344 posted on 05/20/2013 7:42:41 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: LaRueLaDue

Tornadoes travel at about 30 mph. Some travel twice that speed. I have observed this with my own two eyes a couple of times in Texas. But cars travel at high speeds and when you drive at a right angle to the tornado track at 60 mph it takes you exactly 2 minutes to exit a two mile wide tornado track if traffic allows. Life is about choices. I would choose to exit the track given any kind of warning if I was in the track without good cover. I think this is logical and really don’t see what the argument is about to tell you the truth.


345 posted on 05/20/2013 7:45:00 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: All

Channel 9 just said that there was 40-50 people still trapped beneath the rubble of the school.


346 posted on 05/20/2013 7:46:22 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: Daffynition

I just saw that Zach died today. More tears on top of this horrible tragedy. Will be saying a lot of prayers tonight for those suffering and lost. So much sadness tonight, it’s palpable.


347 posted on 05/20/2013 7:47:00 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Barack Hussein 0bama has American blood on HIS hands!)
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To: mplsconservative

**We’ll float up in the clouds and we’ll never see the end.**

If you are a believer, death can be beautiful. Thank you Zach.

**And everything would be just right

And maybe someday I’ll see you again**


348 posted on 05/20/2013 7:51:44 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: muawiyah

Sorry, but I worked in the OKC area as a hydrogeologist for over 10 years (and a bit as a petroleum geologist in the western portion of the state). I know the area. The limestone that you reference is at or near the surface in the NE portion of the state (where I now live), and exposed in the mountains in the SE (Ouachitas) and S (Arbuckles and Wichitas).

Look up the Anadarko Basin. OKC is on the eastern perimeter of this basin, with Permian shales and sandstone exposed at the surface, and at depth. The limestone that you referenced are more than 25,000 feet deep in the deeper portions of the basin. Above is shale, sandstone and some thin, discontinuous limestone, mostly shale.

Underneath the OKC area are the Garber and Wellington Formations, mostly sandstone and interbedded shale, up to a depth of several thousand feet. This is the main aquifer of the area.

Try this link for the state geologic map: http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2003/ofr-03-247/OK_map.pdf.


349 posted on 05/20/2013 7:53:00 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: God luvs America

Many schools are tornado shelters. A brick building is considered more likely to survive a tornado or disaster than trailers, tin buildings, or modern cheaply made apartments and houses. Wasn’t enough in this case.


350 posted on 05/20/2013 7:54:12 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: jwalsh07

Sounds like you are assuming that the roads will be clear of all traffic, emergency vehicles, etc. Not a good assumption... What if 1,000 others think like you do and all hit the road at the same time?


351 posted on 05/20/2013 7:57:09 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: Daffynition

He was a beautiful young guy with a gift for words and music. Hope he’s resting in the arms of the Lord right now and the victims of this terrible tornado. My heart just breaks for the parents of the young ones and the children of the older ones and everyone in between. *blurry screen*


352 posted on 05/20/2013 7:58:14 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Barack Hussein 0bama has American blood on HIS hands!)
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To: jwalsh07
You certainly can and should if you have no place to shelter and you are in the track of the tornado.

Just how fast do you think a tornado travels?

353 posted on 05/20/2013 7:58:39 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: LaRueLaDue

They are saying it was an F5 tornado


354 posted on 05/20/2013 7:58:57 PM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010 and Mom 4-20-26 12-8-2012)
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To: mplsconservative

Me too. Do have any spare kleenex?


355 posted on 05/20/2013 7:59:14 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: Daffynition

I just got through blowing my nose and wiping my eyes as I read your reply. (Passes the box) Just gave my son (16) a huge hug as he goes to bed. He hates to see me cry. Can’t help it tonight. Many, many prayers going up tonight!


356 posted on 05/20/2013 8:04:57 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Barack Hussein 0bama has American blood on HIS hands!)
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To: LaRueLaDue

Actually I mentioned traffic. You must have missed that. Look I’ve had this same argument with different folks about different things. I teach my children and grandchildren to act based on their knowledge of the situation and their abilities to either move or take cover. Huddling in a classroom with a nut armed to the teeth and intent on murdering innocents is not a good strategy. Neither is sitting in the easy chair in your trailer while a monster tornado tracks down on you when the pickup can still do 50. Like I said life is about choices and sometimes we make the wrong ones. I know I have. At any rate my prayers are with these good folks and my money will be as well when they establish a fund. Adios.


357 posted on 05/20/2013 8:05:32 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: LaRueLaDue

Survival is obviously a numbers game, but with this much warning couldn’t they have tried to go West like last night when the risk would have been lower, or at least further into the center of the city ?


358 posted on 05/20/2013 8:09:09 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The average tornado has forward speed of 30mph. Some reach speeds of 70 mph but not very many do that. How long does it take you to drive perpendicular to a tornado 2 miles wide at 60mph when you are driving at approximately right angles to the tornado?

And BTW I have seen what happens to a trailer park in the track of an average tornado up close and personal about 35 years ago. Not a chance in hell I would stay in a trailer with a tornado tracking my way when the truck is in the driveway.


359 posted on 05/20/2013 8:09:36 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: mplsconservative

Holding our loved ones close tonight.

Bless you and your family.


360 posted on 05/20/2013 8:12:52 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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