for further pinging
Does the WaPo even bother to edit what the White Hut sends them?
"She had nothing to do with Benghazi" - President Barack Obama
2. A faster military response would have saved at least some of the four Americans. Our air-base in Sicily is 400 miles away, less than 1 hour for a scrambled jet. That was plenty of time to do several flyovers, drop bombs on the lased targets, etc. before the second two men died several hours after the first attack.
3.Obama and Clinton should not be blamed. The buck stops nowhere? See the two items above. Who is responsible for the lie and the deaths if not 0bama? 4. The Benghazi attack could not have been predicted. Except that Stephens did predict it, asked for better security, and got none.
5. Benghazi is a pseudo-scandal manufactured by the GOP. The Libyan Prime Minister agrees someone manufactured the "Video" excuse. It wasn't the GOP.
4. The Benghazi attack could not have been predicted.
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Predicted? Hell this attack was FReepin’ PLANNED. By the White Hut. It’s not enough to know that the Obama Regime lied their Obama’s off after the fact - we need to know the truth of why they orchestrated this riot - gone - bad in the first place.
I’m in agreement with many experts who have insider info: This was a blind sheik for our kidnapped ambassador trade that went FUBAR. And FUBO knew from the get-got.
A couple of F-18s and supporting aircraft buzzing the compound could have done some good.
But we owed it to the our people to roll at first report whether we thought we could do some good or not. The decision not to do so was political.
Michael Hirsh is on the official list of JOURNOLISTS.
Here is a link to the list for reference. So far, all the Obama apologists have been members of the JOURNOLISTS list.
Isn’t that just odd ?
http://www.nachumlist.com/journoli.htm
Based on my knowledge of the facts currently at hand, I would say that this is fairly accurate except for Myth 1. It wasn’t a binary choice between youtube demonstation and pre-meditated Al-Q attack. If they didn’t want to get ahead of themselves, they could’ve just as easily said - We’re working on who did this. Instead, the administraton mislead the public for political purposes. The irony is that this probably would not have made the difference in the election one way or another.
I know that many here feel otherwise, but I just don’t see Benghazi as impeachment material. Feckless foreign policy, yes. Lack of preparedness, sure. The misleading of the public was bad, but it wasn’t under oath and all administrations spin foreign debacles, especially 2 months away from an election.
Obviously if there was ever proof that 0bama gave a stand-down order or otherwise impeded rescue efforts, there would be some real teeth to the scandal.
To me, the IRS scandal is much more of a threat to the administration. You can tell how sensitive they are by their phony attempts to address it.
Paula Broadwell, the biographer revealed as the woman having a secret affair with the now-former CIA director, gave a talk at the University of Denver on Oct. 26 in which she appeared to reveal sensitive, maybe even classified, information about the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.
The most interesting revelation is her claim that the CIA was holding several Libyan militia members prisoner, which may have prompted the attack.
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/11/did_petraeus_mistress_reveal_new_benghazi_details
TEL AVIV – Did Paula Broadwell, the alleged mistress of ex-CIA Director David Petraeus, reveal a secret CIA detention center in Benghazi during a public speech she gave last month? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2958286/posts
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his youtube—
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNKRKHv742Y&feature=plcp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV55xRx_-7s
*”Soon after I made my calls, one of the guards told me that four men were detained in a building inside the compound who had been shooting at the demonstrators,” he said.
“By the time I arrived at the building the men had already escaped. At that point I left the scene and didn’t return.”*
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/10/2012101921132197668.html
Days before the demonstrators forced Ansar al-Sharia from their Benghazi headquarters, Al Jazeera interviewed a senior member of the militia, and visited a hospital where it was, until Friday, providing security.
The spokesperson, who asked to be quoted by the pseudonym Abu Mohammed, said that the militia had nothing to do with the attack. Ansar al-Sharia was against the killings and looting of the consulate, he said, denying reports from witnesses that its members were photographed at the September 11 protest.
“We are busy guarding our bases and the hospital [on the night of the attack]. We did not order our members to go to the protest,” he said. “We welcome all the Western countries that help us.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/09/201292218380199890.html
1.U.N. Ambassador Susan E. Rice gave a deliberately false account of the attack.
2. A faster military response would have saved at least some of the four Americans.
3.Obama and Clinton should not be blamed.
4. The Benghazi attack could not have been predicted.
5. Benghazi is a pseudo-scandal manufactured by the GOP.
1. Susan Rice knew the talking points were a big lie.
2. Military Ready Response teams were on minutes alert and could have been there from the middle East, Africa or Europe....it doesn’t take 6-10 hours to get from Italy to Libya if you are on alert.
3. Obama and Clinton should be blamed for gun running, screwing up the gun running and then lying about it.
4. The attack was predicted by the CIA and other intelligence weeks and days in advance.
5. Benghazi is a real scandal of Obama, his lackey administration and MSM gross incompetence.
Some of this can’t be called a myth and can’t be called fact either.
We are trying to get to the bottom of it.
crap
20 hours to get F-18’s to Benghazi? Where the heck were they coming from, the factory? These are 1300 MPH jets! Even with refueling, they could go around the world in 20 hours.
Doesn’t pass the smell test.
1.U.N. Ambassador Susan E. Rice gave a deliberately false account of the attack.
Clearly the account given by Ambassador Rice was deliberately false. But do any of us know with certainty that she participated in doctoring the talking points? Perhaps the deliberation was not on her part. Remember the adage that one should not rule out incompetence as a motive. She may have been truly clueless.
2. A faster military response would have saved at least some of the four Americans.
What was the timeline? How long after phone calls were made did the four remaining Americans survive? Without a timeline everyone is simply guessing.
3.Obama and Clinton should not be blamed.
True. This IS a myth.
4. The Benghazi attack could not have been predicted.
True. This IS a myth.
5. Benghazi is a pseudo-scandal manufactured by the GOP.
True. It is a REAL scandal of unplumbed depth.
I’m not going to bother reading his stupid article. But his five myths are five FACTS. When did facts become myths?
Even a kindergartner knows the difference between facts and stories, if you give them a bit of time to think about it.
It takes a stone-blind leftist to come up with this junk.
Are these this weekends talking points?
He says it's a myth that Rice gave a misleading account:
"And there is little doubt that Rice’s taped remarks reflected the best intelligence assessment of the attacks at the time."
Really? The video was the best intelligence assessment at the time? And Rice really thought it was true? Blatant lie.
Muddying the waters so Obama doesn't stand out so much.
Typical media trick.
One thing that came out of the hearing the other day with Holder was an exchange with Chaffetz over an investigation of General Petraeus. Freeper Onyx summarized a few of the questions posed by Chaffetz here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3019843/posts?page=491#491
I could not listen to the hearing, but it sounds like there was an attempt to nail down some times about “what did they know and when did they know it.”
It would be impossible to say for sure, but the speculation that Petraeus might testify could be the additional “shoe” to drop in the Benghazi scandal suggested here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3019263/posts
There was some posting to that effect on the thread.