GOP defies Boehner on special Benghazi panel

The Hill ^ | 5/14/2013 | Molly K. Hooper

[Sir Napsalot]

Oh, and for those who think Boehner was doing the right thing,

Levin: Republican establishment bought into “kooky Tea Party slander”

The scandal broke not because of ANY Repub Establishment did anything, it was due to Levin's persistence and pressuring the right person.

So. There!

[joe fonebone]

my question...

whatever happened to fast ‘n furious?????

my guess is the same will happen here...

it will just go away..

[livius]

He’s definitely trying to distract from Benghazi, but I think his call for an investigation of the IRS means something like the “investigation” they did of Benghazi...you know, the one that ended by saying it was nobody’s fault, nothing happened, or maybe a couple of flunkies dropped the ball but, heck, that’s to be expected...

He doesn’t want a real investigation of anything, believe me. The only type of investigation he wants is something that he hopes will contain and suppress the information.

[livius]

I believe some part of Fast n’ Furious has made it to the courts, but it seems to be bogged down there.

[austinaero]

We should take our time with these investigations....draw them OUT!

[Joe Boucher]

Not one among em worth a thimble of spit

[rodguy911]

Did anyone see this?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/did-the-libyan-government-order-benghazi-attacks/

Was everyone beging played?
Or,is this more disinformation?

[OKSooner]

What do you expect? They're republicans. They don't GAF so long as they know what the socialists are going to do in advance so they can invest in the equity side of it.

They're looking out for their own asses and no one else like good republicans.

[bert]

I support regular order and Issa. Let the process continue,

Those seeking limelight must be disregarded while the layers within layers are uncovered. Speed is not beneficial to a through process

[onyx]

I went to the link for just a sec, (only because of you).
FWIW, I don’t believe hardly anything WND posts.
Reading the headline, I don’t buy that at all.

[Theodore R.]

Yes, but McC and Boehner are ULTIMATELY the result of the collective decisions made by Republican primary voters in two states and then their party membership in both houses. Does not endear one to the wisdom of Republican primary voters

[olezip]

Not one Democrat has co-sponsored the Wolf resolution.

Now why do you suppose this is the case? Usually, the Democrats make a big fuss when there is no co-sponsor. Could it be that they are all hiding under rocks?

After all, the Democrats did hide the fact that Gregory Hicks is a registered Democrat who voted twice for Obama.

Good for Wolf! Boehner plays golf too much with Obama, do you not think?

[Red_Devil 232]

It is my understanding that a Select Committee is under no time constraints and can even span from one Congress to the next. A select committee exists until it completes the task that it was formed to do.

[old and tired]

Having McCain push this Committee leads me to suspect it. I don’t trust McCain in anything.

My thoughts exactly.

[bert]

McCain et al are jealous. They are missing out on the glory.

They crave being part of the action.

[outinyellowdogcountry]

You express my concerns. Special committee if too narrowly defined could overlook important information.

[InterceptPoint]

Freepers should read this paragraph at least twice and consider who would be on and who be left off a Select Committee.

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“They maintain that the 90-day timeline would allow for administration stonewalling, and with only 19 members on the committee — 10 of which would be the committee chairmen and ranking members of the panels with jurisdiction — said it would be difficult to appoint standout questioners to the select panel.”

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Even on Issa’s committee he is no better than the third best questioner. He would get two spots on a Select Commmittee and he would take one of them. Same deal on four other committees. We would get chairmen, maybe good, maybe bad and one maybe competent or just senior member of each committee.

Frankly, just letting Issa take the lead may not be a bad idea.

[Bon mots]

Crybaby's got to go!

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As usual, feel free to steal any or all of mine. :)

I've built a Benghazi Timeline - it could make its own post... feel free...

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The Benghazi Timeline

After months of begging for better security, Ambassador
Stevens calls for help...

Our military is ready to rescue the Ambassador and his
staff, but are given the order to "Stand Down" by Obama.

The Blame Game Begins

Team Obama/Hillary race into action within 24 hours
blaming, naming and arresting an innocent filmmaker
while apologizing to violent Muslims.

The coverup, whitewash and media blackout begin when
their lies fall apart.

In stark contrast to her rush to blame and pass the buck,
Hillary feigns illness, flees the country and drags her feet
for months.
Supporters squeal "It was so looonnngg ago".

"But what difference does it make?!?!"

How it should end...

[Cap Huff]

“I ask Chairman Issa how many people have gone to jail as a result of his investigation?”

MestaMachine -

I greatly appreciate your dedication to getting out the truth to people in general, to to your ping list in particular. Please keep me on your list.

But we here at FR pride ourselves on our fidelity to the Constitution and to the separation of powers that it codifies. In that light, Congress is the legislative branch, not the judicial branch. Congressional investigations should not have “jail” as a goal. Indeed, not even the judicial branch should have that as their goal. Their goal should be justice - which may include incarceration, but may just as well have vindication and liberty. Indeed, if pure justice is not the goal then we have a problem.

I would be appalled if Issa’s investigations had as their goal “jail” for their objects. Suppose the democrats controlled congress, could I sit back if one of Pelosi’s committee chairmen sought “jail” for a conservative? I should hope not! I would oppose it, not just because it was against my political ideas, but also because it was against the Constitution. The very idea that a congressional committee investigation could result in jail is totally unconstitutional and totally against my view of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Let’s be clear, many of the people who have testified before Issa’s committee deserve jail (as far as I can tell), but Issa, his committee, and the congress must not become instruments of justice in the strict sense of the word. That violates the Constitution. In their legislative oversight they must be instruments of truth, which should then be used for legislation. Findings can and should be turned over to the Judicial branch as needed, but Issa and his committee have no judicial functions whatsoever.

On FR I have seen a lot of positive things about Issa, but I have also seen many negative things. Most of the negative comments have centered on why he did not DO SOMETHING about the corruption. Yes, why did Issa not just send the police in to Holder’s office and have him arrested? Why? Why did he not send them in to arrest Obama? Issa is a legislator, not an executive or a judge. We do not have a form of government open to coup d’etat and putsch. At least until now, and we must resist with all of our strength any move toward that form of “justice.”

Even impeachment deals with removal from office, and not ordinary judicial matters. Should the House of Representatives impeach any political office holder and the Senate convict him, what sentence can they give him? Life in prison? Death? A fine of $50,000? As I understand it, none of those. Only removal from office.

Issa is doing a great job, and we need to take courage from that, and give courage to him and his colleagues as well.

[old and tired]

McCain et al are jealous. They are missing out on the glory. They crave being part of the action.

I hope you're right. But McCain makes me nervous.