Posted on 05/10/2013 3:33:32 AM PDT by lowbridge
As a general rule, corporations should be able to build plants where they want, whether its in America or elsewhere. Moreover, if they choose to go overseas, we should be asking, Why is that? Are our corporate taxes too high? Do we have too many regulations? Is there something else that we can do as a nation to be more business-friendly, to keep building plants here in America, so that we can employ more people and rake in more taxes?
However, its a little different with a company like General Motors.
Taxpayers lost more than 10 billion bailing out GM because Obama thinks its fine for his corporate allies to embrace capitalism on the way up and socialism on the way down. Now, GMs taking some of that money that it pilfered from us and its building a plant in China with it.
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Hear is the mentality going on with the “Free Traders”. From what I understand from psychologists, the rapist likes to think deep down the victim wanted it and liked it. When there is any protestation from the victim that little illusion gets busted, infuriating the raper.
Unless the factory is in America, no net wealth is ever created. There are only three ways to create wealth: mine it, make it or grow it.
UAW is organized crime permitted by the government to extort money from workers with no wish to participate. Hard to understand how they could be given power by government mandate allowing them legal extortionists. I will buy foreign goods made by non-union workers before I will participate in anything so blatantly corrupt. I won’t buy from chinese commies, but I will certainly buy Japanese.
The idea that this article proves that free trade is causing GM to build a plant in China is maybe the dumbest point you made, and you have tried to make it from the beginning. It's fatuous at best, and quite honestly insane to try to make that point.
You are correct in one thing, deep down us free trade advocates do know something isn't right........we just think it might be what's in your mind.
The Free Trader dost protest too much, methinks
So the 30% tariffs on car imports that the Chinks slap onto incoming vehicles had NOTHING to do with this, right?
GM has no interest in free trade at all, they're part and parcel of the most anti-free trade administration ever. That's how they make their money. It's called crony capitalism.
They make money, they put it into dem pockets, then they make more money. It's the Chicago Way and has nothing to do with free trade.
Those words, I do not think they mean what you think they mean (apologies to Inigo Montoya).......
YOU NEVER ADDRESS MY QUESTIONS.
It's really that simple.
Sorry, that’s insane and inane reasoning. You act like there is no American beneficiary on the other side of those trades. That’s astonishing econ ignorance. Sarah Palin would be ashamed a supporter of hers is this blind to economics.
That an industry can be “raped” is emotional poppycock to begin with, but even so:
Unions and government regs and the IRS are the rapist....not Americans trying to figure out how to navigate an immutable world economy. Why do you put the precsious American laborer ahead of the American consumer, the American importer, the American retailer, and all who do commerce with all of them?
Trade, the conducting of business on an international scale, is conducted by individuals that want to make money. Making money is fun. Making money is the force driving trade. Making money makes competition both fun and worthwhile.
The phrase International Scale was used to distinguish those tens of thousands of companies that conduct trade with only a few customers. It is not necessary to be global to benefit from selling customers beyond your own borders. The scope of American Trade by small and very small companies is below the radar but is immense.
The number of jobs depending on such trade is enormous. First there is the producer, then there are the money types, the bankers that handle the exchange, then the forwarders that handle the transport, then the transporters that do the moving, then the communicators including, mail,fed ex, DHL. Then there are various people that are involved in regulating and legality and such. It included the dredge workers that keep the harbors and rivers operable. It includes the port workers and air port freight handlers and on and on and on.
To always try to analyze on a macro scale is to miss the reality of the literally thousands of small parts that collectively add up to a total transaction.
Worth repeating, and highlighting.
I'm fairly positive those here who are issuing the anti-free trade tirades have never run a business and don't understand the joys (and hard work/reward) of being an entrepreneur.
The straw men they put up as their shields are an embarrassment.
A+ ... bert!
Bert’s comments did such a good job is demonstrating just a tip of the ice berg of how complicated, dynamic and inter-related an economy is. At each level, owners, consumers, shippers, handlers, etc, acting in their best interest and in liberty, is what works the best for the most Americans. It has always proven throughout history as the most efficient and most merit based way to allocate resources.
-——acting in their best interest and in liberty-——
there you have it,simply stated but pregnant with meaning
Why do you hate Americans and why are you the determinate of what comprises a Conservative? I think of Free Trade as I do of Open Borders, good in theory but not in practice. I’m in favor of US workers just like China, EU, Russia, Bolivia, Mexico, etc., etc are in favor of their domestic workers.
The Chinese and Korean love your free trade bs and “liberty” bs. They are laughing all the way to the bank. Libertarians are hot house flowers that only exist in a few select industrialized nations. Beyond your ken the rest of the world is tribal and acts tribally to your detriment. They will keep jobs at home as best they can while the stooopid nations that are governed by degenerates who are free trade oriented end up as paupers depending on the Federal Reserve (and other central banks) to blow bubbles, to flood the stock market with mythical money to give everyone the illusion of national prosperity
LOL
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