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Thanks For The Bailout, Suckers! GM Builds A New Plant In China
http://www.rightwingnews.com ^ | may 9, 2013 | John Hawkins

Posted on 05/10/2013 3:33:32 AM PDT by lowbridge

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To: C. Edmund Wright

Hear is the mentality going on with the “Free Traders”. From what I understand from psychologists, the rapist likes to think deep down the victim wanted it and liked it. When there is any protestation from the victim that little illusion gets busted, infuriating the raper.


61 posted on 05/10/2013 6:51:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bert

Unless the factory is in America, no net wealth is ever created. There are only three ways to create wealth: mine it, make it or grow it.


62 posted on 05/10/2013 6:53:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

UAW is organized crime permitted by the government to extort money from workers with no wish to participate. Hard to understand how they could be given power by government mandate allowing them legal extortionists. I will buy foreign goods made by non-union workers before I will participate in anything so blatantly corrupt. I won’t buy from chinese commies, but I will certainly buy Japanese.


63 posted on 05/10/2013 6:57:53 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: central_va; C. Edmund Wright
Based on this thread/article the Raping of American Industry is continuing, heck it is increasing.

The idea that this article proves that free trade is causing GM to build a plant in China is maybe the dumbest point you made, and you have tried to make it from the beginning. It's fatuous at best, and quite honestly insane to try to make that point.

You are correct in one thing, deep down us free trade advocates do know something isn't right........we just think it might be what's in your mind.

64 posted on 05/10/2013 7:10:57 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark
You are correct in one thing, deep down us free trade advocates do know something isn't right........we just think it might be what's in your mind.

The Free Trader dost protest too much, methinks

65 posted on 05/10/2013 7:14:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Protesting ideas put forward that aren't true has never been considered wrong by me. That you think this article somehow proves free trade was responsible for this plant being built in China is totally insane. I stand by that comment.
66 posted on 05/10/2013 7:26:26 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

So the 30% tariffs on car imports that the Chinks slap onto incoming vehicles had NOTHING to do with this, right?


67 posted on 05/10/2013 7:28:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Like I said before, we know somehting is wrong: you really need a refresh button for your mental processes.

GM has no interest in free trade at all, they're part and parcel of the most anti-free trade administration ever. That's how they make their money. It's called crony capitalism.

They make money, they put it into dem pockets, then they make more money. It's the Chicago Way and has nothing to do with free trade.

Those words, I do not think they mean what you think they mean (apologies to Inigo Montoya).......

68 posted on 05/10/2013 7:39:58 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

YOU NEVER ADDRESS MY QUESTIONS.


69 posted on 05/10/2013 7:41:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
YOU ASK QUESTIONS TO OBFUSCATE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

It's really that simple.

70 posted on 05/10/2013 8:13:38 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Lakeshark

Sorry, that’s insane and inane reasoning. You act like there is no American beneficiary on the other side of those trades. That’s astonishing econ ignorance. Sarah Palin would be ashamed a supporter of hers is this blind to economics.


71 posted on 05/10/2013 9:07:12 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: central_va

That an industry can be “raped” is emotional poppycock to begin with, but even so:
Unions and government regs and the IRS are the rapist....not Americans trying to figure out how to navigate an immutable world economy. Why do you put the precsious American laborer ahead of the American consumer, the American importer, the American retailer, and all who do commerce with all of them?


72 posted on 05/10/2013 9:09:20 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: bert; Lakeshark; central_va; Cringing Negativism Network; dennisw
The issue of trade is mistakenly thought of as some great process of nations or global behemoths. It is not.

Trade, the conducting of business on an international scale, is conducted by individuals that want to make money. Making money is fun. Making money is the force driving trade. Making money makes competition both fun and worthwhile.

The phrase International Scale was used to distinguish those tens of thousands of companies that conduct trade with only a few customers. It is not necessary to be global to benefit from selling customers beyond your own borders. The scope of American Trade by small and very small companies is below the radar but is immense.

The number of jobs depending on such trade is enormous. First there is the producer, then there are the money types, the bankers that handle the exchange, then the forwarders that handle the transport, then the transporters that do the moving, then the communicators including, mail,fed ex, DHL. Then there are various people that are involved in regulating and legality and such. It included the dredge workers that keep the harbors and rivers operable. It includes the port workers and air port freight handlers and on and on and on.

To always try to analyze on a macro scale is to miss the reality of the literally thousands of small parts that collectively add up to a total transaction.

Worth repeating, and highlighting.

73 posted on 05/10/2013 9:21:33 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; bert
Well said bert.

I'm fairly positive those here who are issuing the anti-free trade tirades have never run a business and don't understand the joys (and hard work/reward) of being an entrepreneur.

The straw men they put up as their shields are an embarrassment.

74 posted on 05/10/2013 9:53:15 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: bert

A+ ... bert!


75 posted on 05/10/2013 11:02:35 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Lakeshark; bert; Servant of the Cross; dennisw; central_va; Cringing Negativism Network

Bert’s comments did such a good job is demonstrating just a tip of the ice berg of how complicated, dynamic and inter-related an economy is. At each level, owners, consumers, shippers, handlers, etc, acting in their best interest and in liberty, is what works the best for the most Americans. It has always proven throughout history as the most efficient and most merit based way to allocate resources.


76 posted on 05/10/2013 11:20:29 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

-——acting in their best interest and in liberty-——

there you have it,simply stated but pregnant with meaning


77 posted on 05/10/2013 12:15:37 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Why do you hate Americans and why are you the determinate of what comprises a Conservative? I think of Free Trade as I do of Open Borders, good in theory but not in practice. I’m in favor of US workers just like China, EU, Russia, Bolivia, Mexico, etc., etc are in favor of their domestic workers.


78 posted on 05/10/2013 12:55:10 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The Chinese and Korean love your free trade bs and “liberty” bs. They are laughing all the way to the bank. Libertarians are hot house flowers that only exist in a few select industrialized nations. Beyond your ken the rest of the world is tribal and acts tribally to your detriment. They will keep jobs at home as best they can while the stooopid nations that are governed by degenerates who are free trade oriented end up as paupers depending on the Federal Reserve (and other central banks) to blow bubbles, to flood the stock market with mythical money to give everyone the illusion of national prosperity


79 posted on 05/10/2013 2:49:07 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: lowbridge

LOL


80 posted on 05/10/2013 2:53:41 PM PDT by GOPJ ( A gang rape by eight isn't 'immigration reform'... Send the 33 million illegals home.)
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