Posted on 05/09/2013 10:10:15 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
230.9. (a) It shall be unlawful for a large employer, as defined in Section 14199.1 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, to designate an employee as an independent contractor or temporary employee, reduce an employee's hours of work, or terminate an employee if the purpose of the action is to avoid the employer's obligations under Article 7 (commencing with Section 14199) of Chapter 7 of Part 3 of Division 9 of the Welfare and Institutions Code.
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” or terminate an employee if the purpose of the action is to avoid the employer’s obligations “
Can’t fire them and for those that say prove it i say the state will go after the employer and force them to prove a negative. Does anyone doubt the judges in that state won’t rule against the business?
The burden of proof is going to be up to the employer........and a nightmare for their HR and legal departments.
A disgruntled employee doesn't have to prove anything, all they need to do is file the complaint with the appropriate agency and let them do the rest.....
“Its already being discussed in the form of a departure tax, last I heard. Cant recall the source but I know I read about it somewhere”
Ditto, heard the same. One would think this wouldn’t pass constitutional mustard, but we live in odd times.
Well, not all the people of California elect them but all the people of California suffer from the results. California is huge, population wise and contains a lot of conservatives that suffer from the majority's decisions at the polls and some times when the people do speak out for what is right, the court ignores them anyway, (Proposition 8).
It's not always a simple thing for conservatives to "pack up and leave".
I know you didn't say, "pack up and leave" and I'm not talking to you specifically but as a resident of Illinois, I've heard it plenty of times.
In some ways, I envy those who have no family, job, property etc. tying them to a particular location but in most ways I don't.
This should be called the “Creating Jobs in Texas” bill....because TX is going to get a lot more jobs from this bill
If the businesses are incorporated (Inc.), they cannot be consolidated for OBozoCare consideration unless the IRS Tax Code is changed...which could and probably would happen.
Do we relly need callyfornuh? Why not let the mexicallys take it over and whenit fails, goes bankrupt and they leave after theMexicons haveplundeed every nail, board and orange they can we take it back over and start all over. Callyfornuh is fast becoming a failed state. Look for a long slow self-destruuction which is what the left does best.
If California goes down- your state is gone.
Same here, rodguy911. We are all in the same pickle barrel. Except Texas, just ask ‘em.
For all intents and purposes, the bill is already in effect. The govt is using staffing numbers from 2013 to show whether or not a company is small / large in 2014 and thereby requiring a company to provide govt insurance.
All people are required in 2013 to have insurance, whether employer provided or not, and you will have to report that you have it on your tax forms when you prepare them in 2014.
That's why you saw so many companies lay off people, reduce their hours in early 2013. They were trying to get the reductions in prior to the "look back" time period that the govt will use.
Any employer that is small (< 50 eligible employees) is actually recommended not to grow their eligible employees more than 45. At least that's what our company was advised, and that was by our insurance broker.
What a freaking boondoggle.
A smart business would just move incrementally. Establish a business site in the desired state. Name it under some new LLC name and move key employees that can work remotely or hire new ones. Subcontract to the LLC not to the individual employee. After a few months operations could be moved totally. If it is assembly or manufacturing company it would be a bit more difficult but still could be done. And don’t even make an announcement until it is basically a done deal.
Talk about having the bit in their teeth! These lib gubments are totally out of control!
so glad I am leaving in 19 days
Those leaving the socialist utopia wouldn’t be the liberals. You’d be getting more conservatives, so I wouldn’t complain.
It’s all the illegals that will turn Texas blue or purple once they get amnesty.
I hope you are OK for those days...in Cali you never know. I had the same anxiety when I left the Freak state, Maryland last year. There is a life beyond the Commies.
Thank you for a logical rational post!
There ARE a lot of conservatives in blue states and many will leave after they retire. The exodus of retired white people from CA is obvious. But since CA pays higher than most other states, it is hard to move before then.
I know first hand power plant jobs in Texas pay at least 30% less than CA. And although Texans like to brag about how cheap it is to live there - with the confiscatory 3%+ property taxes - it really isn’t. And all the illegals make it unlivable, IMO. I’ll not move from the 1st most invaded state to the 2nd - that’s hardly any better.
How come those from other conservative states don’t brag as much as Texans? Tennessee and Oklahome have fearless state legislatures, as well as Idaho. Oklahoma has managed to pass an anti-illegal bill that has stayed on the books for years now. Tennessee’s property taxes are very low and they only have a state tax on capital gains and dividends. But I don’t see them being arrogant and condescending to others - and they have reason to be. (It’s because they are among the nicest people in the US, so that’s why I’m moving there and giving them all my retirement money!)
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