Posted on 05/09/2013 6:29:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
Three young Cleveland girls missing and presumed dead turned up alive and in good health. A hero of the story is a neighbor, Charles Ramsey, a black man who helped free the girls from the home in which they were apparently imprisoned for some 10 years.
Among other things, Ramsey said: "I knew something was wrong when a little pretty white girl ran into a black man's arms. Something is wrong here. Dead giveaway. Dead giveaway. Dead giveaway. Either she homeless or she got problems. That's the only reason she run to a black man." Presumably the black man the "pretty white girl" ran up to was Ramsey himself.
But a check of The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Cleveland Plain Dealer shows that while the papers quoted Ramsey, none saw fit to include his observation that "a pretty white girl" running up to a black man means "something is wrong here." Looking uncomfortable, the television reporter, from local Channel 5, an ABC affiliate, promptly broke off the interview. No follow up, as in, "What, you've never seen a Shirley Temple movie?" (Kidding, just kidding.)
News sometimes makes reporters feel uncomfortable. So what? Ramsey's comments reflect how the Good Samaritan felt -- which makes it news. If Ramsey's other comments get reported, why not that one? Besides, Homeland Security tells us, "See something, say something," But when this particular citizen does, many in our establishment media do not want to tell us what he said?!
Question: Assume Ramsey were white and said: "I knew something was wrong when a little pretty white girl ran into my black neighbor's arms. Dead giveaway. Dead giveaway." Does the comment get removed, excised or cleaned up? Not likely, for a favorite media narrative is that racism remains a major problem in America. Put Ramsey's comment in a white man's mouth, and voila! In the soul of this otherwise Good Samaritan, we have "stereotyping," if not "bigotry" or "racism."
When athletes, for example, say "ain't" or use double negatives, sportswriters sometimes clean up the language, presumably to avoid making the players sound uneducated. That's one thing. But when you ignore comments like those of Ramsey, then media serve as a public relations bureau, not as a conveyor of "news."
In 1991, researchers for the National Race and Politics Survey asked both blacks and whites if they agreed with a series of politically incorrect statements about black people: "Blacks are aggressive or violent"; "Blacks are boastful"; "Blacks are complaining"; "Blacks are lazy"; and "Blacks are irresponsible."
In almost every case, more blacks agreed with the negative statements than did whites. While 52 percent of whites, for example, agreed with the statement, "Blacks are aggressive or violent," 59 percent of blacks also agreed. On the question of blacks being boastful, more blacks than whites agreed, at 57 percent and 45 percent, respectively. On, "Blacks are complaining," 51 percent of blacks agreed, while fewer whites, at 41 percent, agreed. Fewer whites (34 percent) than blacks (39 percent) agreed that "blacks are lazy."
Stanford University's political scientist Paul M. Sniderman and survey research specialist Thomas Piazza examined the 1991 survey. They write: "In every case, blacks are at least as likely as whites to hold a negative view of blacks. ... Indeed, when it comes to judgments of whether blacks as a group exhibit socially undesirable characteristics, where there is a statistically significant difference between the views of blacks and whites, it always takes the form of blacks expressing a more negative evaluation of other blacks than do whites."
Years ago, the Los Angeles Times ran a front-page story about black tradesmen who work in predominately wealthy white areas like Bel-Air and Beverly Hills. All experienced instances of racism. One said a woman refused to open her door when he, a suspicious looking black man, came to answer her service call. Another talked about the time someone sicced dogs on him.
I discussed this article with a non-reporter friend who works for the Times. I told him a white roofer recently did work for me and told me that someone shot at him as he tried to repair the roof on a building in Compton, a predominately working-class black and Hispanic neighborhood in the Los Angeles area. The roofer told me that he experienced other instances of mistreatment that could only be attributed to anti-white racism.
"Where are the stories of white tradespeople working in predominately black and brown areas? What about their stories?" I asked my newspaper friend. "You won't get that story," he admitted. "Too many people would be upset. But a story about how badly whites treat blacks offends no one."
Whites, he said, remain deeply guilty about white racism -- and feel comfortable about being called on it. Stories about black or brown racism against whites can spark angry calls and letters from the "civil rights establishment," ever vigilant for examples to show the "persistence" of white racism.
As for Ramsey's comments, our racially sensitive major media find it easier to excise this black man's provocative remarks rather than explore what Ramsey meant. Dead giveaway...
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Or admitted to being a Federal Employee...
You lost the argument in one post. You are laughing at me?
Go lay down boy.
Maybe he should have checked with Angel first or had he forgotten about him at that point.
Thanks.... No, I do not worry about being trashed as I clearly see that many newcomers and some old timers respond in various modes of anger. haa. You have to be thick skinned to be a conservative in the first place, IMHO. Some of these people ARE paid to sit on blogs and stir the pot.
What is going on in this great nation is horrific and we are being destroyed by this administration and all his “friends” he’s put into high places. Reminds me of this:
Nikita Khrushchev Quote, September 29, 1959
Pounding his shoe on the table at the UN and telling us how we will be communist. See entire quote.
http://www.calltodecision.com/nkqs.htm
http://www.calltodecision.com/nkqs.htm
I've only been inside my sister-in-law's house once in 30 years. Then again, she lives a thousand miles away.
The other two brothers were arrested because they were WITH the kidnapper brother when he was arrested.
He was merely answering a direct question, which was whether he deserved a reward. It was asked yesterday, by Anderson Cooper, in a CNN interview.
Nobody was offering Ramsey a reward. It was a generic question, and it would have been silly for Ramsey to go check with his Spanish-speaking neighbor before answering.
What’s your problem? This was a lower-income neighborhood. Ramsey is probably not the guy you would choose to live next-door, but he was involved in the girls’ rescue. On Monday, after it happened, he talked about the Hispanic guy. He used the word “we.”
It’s likely that Ramsey hasn’t done a lot of good in his life. Can you give him his 15 minutes?
Can you give Angel his 15 minutes too???
Isn't Angel due his 15 minutes or just Charles???
Thank you
What part of the words below escape your understanding:
In an earlier interview with local channel, Mr Cordero went into a bit more detail about Ramsey’s role, saying that by the time Mr Ramsey arrived, Amanda was already ‘outside with the girl’.
‘But the truth who arrived there, who crossed the street, who came and broke the door, it was me.’
For his part, Mr Ramsey didn’t mention Mr Cordero by name but did say that when he heard the woman screaming he saw his neighbour run across the street and so he went along to see what was going on.
I don’t know these people, and it’s a pretty sure bet you don’t, either.
Unless you were an eyewitness to the event, it’s hard to understand why you are trying to make this into some controversy, taking sides and posting false information.
Maybe you’re just sitting at home and bored in the middle of the day. Maybe you’ll have a chance to do something helpful for one of your neighbors . . .
I have a special place in my heart for Sweet Brown: "O Sweet Jesus, It's a Faaahhhrrr!"
What false information did I post??? Those are words that came verbatim out of the article posted. Check them out — and then apologize for your false accusation.
“dead giveway”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZcRU0Op5P4
catchy how they clipped it to make him rhyme.
he looks like Looter Guy’s twin bro, bro.
Comment #43, this thread:
“Good thing that there were a lot of people in that neighborhood on welfare and unemployment otherwise there might not have been anyone there to hear her screams. “
Ramsey has a job, said he was home because he had the day off.
I simply don’t understand why you have decided this is a partisan issue. From the beginning, from Monday night, it’s been apparent that there were two men who helped the girl, one hispanic, one a black man, neither of them known for social standing or a big bank account.
Can’t you just pat them both on the back?
What is untrue about that statement??? and where in that statement is the finger pointed at Charles Ramsay???
Ramsey has a job, said he was home because he had the day off.
I'll guarantee you that is a part time job, and even if it is not he can't make ends meet on what they pay dishwashers -- $7/hr. His income/housing is being supplemented somewhere and I have no problem with that as he no doubt needs it as part of the working poor.
But you decided to make an issue out of this by trying to read motives that aren't there and making a false accusation. All I did was point out the parts of the article that elucidated what happened that day. And you accuse me of being "partisan"??? Partisan of what???
I simply pointed out that if Charles is a hero, then Angel is more of a hero as he led the charge across the street to help and Charles by his own admission merely followed.
Why are you incapable of giving credit where credit is due -- to Angel???
Yes, that has happened to me quite a few times as well. I have even been branded a lib and/or a troll when simply asking someone where they got their information. Apparently they thought I should take everything they said as the gospel truth, and if not I was a heretic from the Left. As a conservative with strong conservative values, I would expect that the degree of civility on FR be higher than it is among liberals who do not share the same values. I am sad to say that there is often no difference.
Again, unless you’re an eyewitness, you are gathering information from the same sources as all the rest of us.
Since you earlier linked to The Daily Mail, read this:
“Cordero said he and other neighbors helped Ramsey break down the door of the Seymore Ave. home.”
Cordero doesn’t speak English. Here’s a quote by Cordero from the first Daily Mail article to which you linked:
“We saw a hand outside the house that was moving up and down so we went to go check what was going on and she had told me that she had been kidnapped for ten years.”
We? That’s plural. Not just Cordero.
And how did he understand what she said if she speaks English and he only speaks Spanish and needs an interpreter?
Amanda and her co-victims were helped by neighbors. Plural. Apparently both men, then the lady across the street with the phone. It’s not either/or neither/nor. They all agree on that. I don’t understand why you can’t.
This bum Ramsey has a long rap sheet for beating and abusing women. He is no kind of hero.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/cleveland-hero-charles-ramsey-8702415
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