Posted on 05/08/2013 4:28:45 PM PDT by bimboeruption
Gina DeJesus, 23, Michelle Knight, 30, and Amanda Berry, 26 , and her six-year-old daughter fled the house in Cleveland, Ohio.
Ariel Castro, 52, and his two brothers have been arrested.
Frantic Amanda choked back tears as she told police Im free after she escaped the dungeon.
Amanda fled the hell-hole thanks to a hero neighbour before her dramatic 911 call ended the victims ordeal .
It had been feared that Amanda and the other captives Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight had been murdered.
After escaping the house on Monday just three miles from where they each went missing between 2002 and 2004, they named their captor as 52-year-old Ariel Castro, who tonight was in custody with his two brothers.
The women, aged between 14 and 22 when they disappeared, spent today in hospital before being given the all-clear by doctors and returning to their overwhelmed families.
Amanda, now 26, was joined by her six-year-old daughter who she gave birth to during the years in the dungeon as she hugged her weeping relatives.
Chilling details began to emerge tonight of how the victims were held captive in a basement dungeon.
Police sources said suspect Ariel Castro kept Michelle, Amanda and Gina tied up with chains and tape at the home in Cleveland, Ohio.
The insider said they were kept in different rooms and were possibly untied at different times.
Officers also revealed the three women had multiple pregnancies.
There was evidence of as many as five children being born while the women were held hostage.
One of the victims suffered as many as three miscarriages because she was so malnourished.
Reports also told how the women were beaten so badly they lost other babies.
Police were today seen examining dug up areas in the back garden.
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I can only recount the facts as provided by the police. Do you have a problem with that?
My question still stands, so I'll try to answer it for you. It is possible that in the last photograph, due to the location of the photographer, and the apparent breeze, that the Puerto Rican flag flipped over the American flag and is hidden by it.
But where is the American Flag in the first photo? You say its behind the Puerto Rican flag, even though it really isn't visible in any magnification of the original posted image, yellow line or not. Maybe it is, in which case both flags were present the entire time and our speculation is incorrect. But it isn't visible in the photograph, and if you look at the second photograph closely you will see that the two sticks the flags are mounted close together. And the fabric of both flags appear to be in contact. And the American flag is now on the entrance side of the pair of flags. And for it to change sides some force had to separate the fabric, which would be unlikely to be an aerodynamic force.
Or maybe it isn't there.
Apart from speculation, it really doesn't matter. If it is there then the photographs Sirius Lee's analysis relied upon happen to lead to an incorrect conclusion. That is a typical problem with any analysis of image data, which is why drone strikes guided by image sensors sometimes blow up a house full of kids.
And if the images showed the flags were changed during the day it would indicate that someone felt the need to do so, for whatever reasons they might have. Those reasons would be interesting to explore.
At this point perhaps the most interesting question is why is it such a big deal to you? You felt the need to make three images, even though one of them, the only one I asked about, really doesn't show the flag you say it does.
The 4th charge may be for the 6 year old girl.
Kidnapping charges against Ariel Castro include the 6-year-old child found in home.
They probably do suspect him, but no charges yet, in regards to the missing woman.
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The brothers weren't there. They did not live with Ariel Castro, the kidnapping brother.
I agree. It's a stretch to believe that the brothers never knew a thing in all those years.
One of the neighbors claimed that they once saw three naked women on leashes in Castro's back yard. They indicated that there were other men present. The brothers?
Me too.
That don't mean shit. Incriminating reports disappear every day.
Castro is such a monster I would put nothing past him. I hope they can connect him to other missing girls so families can put their loved ones to rest.
This was already making the rounds two days ago at this website: http://yourdaddy.net/2013/05/07/amanda-berry-kidnap-house-flag-and-other-photo-anomolies/
I was almost sucked into it, until I realized that there were two flags there. You may argue with me relating it to conspiracy theories, but that’s how conspiracy theories get started. Consider the whole 9/11 Truther movement. That was started by someone who saw something that he thought looked strange, and so he posted his analysis somewhere, and before you knew it, there were tons of people latching onto his kooky theory.
My image was intended to be a bit of a joke, but it has a serious point, which is that conservatives look like kooks if we start questioning the presence (or lack thereof) of a flag that was there the whole time. You may not think that you can see the flag in the third picture I posted, but the first picture looks like it was taken at exactly the same time from the other end of the sidewalk. Examining the positioning of the American flag in my picture #1, and noting that the “top” edge of the American flag in that picture protrudes just slightly above the Cuban flag, I then look at the Cuban flag in picture #3 and when I zoom in, I notice some visual noise above the top red stripe of the Cuban flag that appears to be the edge of the American flag. It’s a very small sliver - completely consistent with the positioning of the American flag seen in my image #1.
I would throw your question back at you. Why is it such a big deal to you?
As far as your question, you don't seem to want to answer mine. Why not?
Sorry, I knew it was Puerto Rican. Not sure why I said Cuban in my post after I’d made the images that said Puerto Rican. I think the name Castro got in my head and it was a bit of a Freudian slip.
I did answer your question. I told you exactly why it’s such a big deal to me. I see the makings of a conspiracy theory about an issue that is complete nonsense and I want to nip it in the bud, because I fear that it will make conservatives look like kooks.
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