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As buzz mounts, Ted Cruz’s White House eligibility again questioned
Washingon Times ^

Posted on 05/06/2013 7:09:31 AM PDT by Perdogg

Ted Cruz’s address at the annual South Carolina Republican Party dinner Friday helped feed growing speculation that the freshman senator from Texas is eyeing a run for the White House in 2016 — and raised yet another round of questions about his eligibility to serve in the Oval Office.

Mr. Cruz was born in Canada to an American-born mother and Cuban-born father, and was a citizen from birth — but that Canadian factor puts him in the company of other past candidates who have had their eligibility questioned because of the Constitution’s requirement that a president be a “natural born citizen.”

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; birthers; certifigate; cruz2016; naturalborncitizen; tedcruz
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To: Jeff Winston
And Jeff repeats his delusional crap. Jeff is the one rejecting all evidence contrary to his beliefs. He keeps citing "quotes" that don't prove anything, and then claims these people he quoted are on his side.

He even tried it with John Bingham, and he intentionally truncated his quote so as to completely change it's meaning. Reading Jeff's crap is seconds of your life you won't get back. I've gotten to where I seldom bother anymore.

241 posted on 05/07/2013 6:12:55 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Jeff Winston
Maybe some photoshop going on.  photo 644681_4673064350123_339152294_n_zpse6283c82.jpg  photo bEGKAuSt156_zps50473dd3.jpeg
242 posted on 05/07/2013 6:13:22 AM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: Jeff Winston

Another long spew of verbiage that i’m not going to bother reading. All anyone needs to know is this: If Jeff posted it, it’s misleading crap.


243 posted on 05/07/2013 6:14:33 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Jeff Winston
Nobody is interested in your Posts Jeff. We've heard it all before, ad infinitum ad absurdum.

You simply repeat a ream of crap that you've collected, and claim Historical people as supporting you by misrepresenting their meaning. You've done it with John Bingham, and you do it constantly with James Madison. You are simply a dishonest proponent of your desire to legitimize the most illegitimate President in History.

You are, in essence, some sort of kook.

244 posted on 05/07/2013 6:17:49 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Jeff Winston

Bill Bryan of the fogbow is placing a photo shopped pic to deceive the citizens of Raleigh.

Glasses..added hair.

The man is a fraud just like the president.

http://www.meetup.com/The-Knowledge-Team/


245 posted on 05/07/2013 6:33:37 AM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: DiogenesLamp
How can you argue that someone who could have been stripped of citizenship is the same thing as a "natural born citizen"?

It can also be argued that he wasn't stripped of his natural-born citizen status, he relinquished that citizenship. He knew what was involved in retaining his citizenship. He didn't do it. He lost it through his own actions.

246 posted on 05/07/2013 6:41:53 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: 0.E.O
It can also be argued that he wasn't stripped of his natural-born citizen status, he relinquished that citizenship.

He didn't "relinquish" it. It was ripped off of him kicking and screaming. He took it to the Supreme Court in an effort to retain it.

Look, this is simple. A "natural citizen" could have spent his entire life abroad, and never lost his citizenship for failing to live here for a designated period.

"Natural Citizens" are not subject to residency requirements. "Statutory citizens" are.

247 posted on 05/07/2013 6:54:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: allmendream

You did not answer the question posed to you. I did not introduce a fourth category of citizenship, but you must for your theory to hold water.

What is the reason for the distinction between “citizen” as a requirement for Senator and Representative and “natural born” citizen for President?


248 posted on 05/07/2013 6:58:54 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82

Of the three categories of citizen mentioned in the Constitution, any of the three may be a Senator. A non citizen cannot be a Senator. Only a natural born citizen or a citizen at the time of the adoption can be President. A naturalized citizen or a non citizen cannot be President.


249 posted on 05/07/2013 7:16:54 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: DiogenesLamp; Jim Robinson; 22202NOVA; 4Zoltan; aruanan; Barkeep99; BigEdLB; BuckeyeTexan; ...
You simply repeat a ream of crap that you've collected, and claim Historical people as supporting you by misrepresenting their meaning. You've done it with John Bingham, and you do it constantly with James Madison. You are simply a dishonest proponent of your desire to legitimize the most illegitimate President in History.

You can't show that I have "misrepresented" John Bingham, James Madison, or anybody else, because I haven't.

Is this what it's come down to? That birthers are free to publicly call the writings of our Founding Fathers and other early legal experts, and our long-standing laws, "horse sh*t" and "crap?"

Jim, can I ask: Why is this being tolerated here at FreeRepublic? I simply don't understand.

250 posted on 05/07/2013 7:45:10 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Of course is wishful thinking ...... and I am being very careful of what I wish for, by the remote chance it could come true.

No diehard secessionist, American first, but if and when America abandons us, Texas has long been able to maintain that special America attitude, that the liberals are desperate to flush.


251 posted on 05/07/2013 8:03:01 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

I was born abroad to a British citizen, and I am considered a British citizen myself, although I have not at any time permanently resided in that country.

It stops at one generation, though. My children are not British citizens and cannot easily become so unless they reside in the UK for at least three years before turning 18.


252 posted on 05/07/2013 8:10:40 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: Jeff Winston

Why are you pinging me in your reply for a thread I have not even viewed? If you want to argue with someone, go ahead, but try to keep it between yourselves.


253 posted on 05/07/2013 8:16:15 AM PDT by ken in texas (I respect my elders but keep finding fewer of them.)
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To: ken in texas

Sorry. Based on a previous thread, I thought you would be interested.


254 posted on 05/07/2013 8:20:36 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

Greg Craig



Fess up, Greg. You've won! Take a bow.
255 posted on 05/07/2013 8:26:33 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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To: Jeff Winston

Jeff, not sure why you pinged me. I gave up on your creative use of the founders a long time back. If you really want to win converts to your point of view, you need to find some common ground with your opponents. Instead, if I recall correctly, your nearly every post was decorated with not only quotes of the founders, but implicit or explicit attacks on the intelligence and motivation of people who don’t share your interpretive theories re the text. That’s going to draw fire, very predictably so, and I find it baffling that you should be at all surprised by the cool reception you ate getting.

Anyway, please do not ping me in the future. I have plenty going on and don’t have time for distractions that go nowhere. Where y’all get the time for these endless debates is beyond me. Sigh. Maybe when I retire...


256 posted on 05/07/2013 8:38:50 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Jeff Winston

You have my sympathy.


257 posted on 05/07/2013 8:53:45 AM PDT by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: Jeff Winston

Jeff, thank you for the ping.

It’s a strange and ironic thing that birthers have found themselves in direct opposition to our Founding Fathers, but they certainly have.

On one side, we have the Father of our Constitution. On the other, a Swiss writer who died when we were still subjects of the king. The choice is pretty clear to me.


258 posted on 05/07/2013 9:03:10 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: DiogenesLamp

In Senator Cruz’s case, I can see you are more right than I in the Cable Act’s application and it would seem to clarify Cruz being NBC in the event it were to ever come before a Court.

Short of Constitutional clarity, should not a Court follow Common-law that gives us that NBC is conveyed to those born of a USA citizen, beyond the borders, considering Cruz Mother made certain no dual citizenship by registering him for USA Passport and returning him to reside in USA as proscribed?


259 posted on 05/07/2013 9:05:48 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Jeff Winston; All
There isn't a single living legal expert who thinks that Cruz is not eligible to be President.
260 posted on 05/07/2013 9:12:14 AM PDT by Kansas58
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