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America is too young a civilization, to be showing the signs of moral and cultural decadence that are associated with very old civilizations. An American Nero like Obama has arrived about 1000 years too early.
1 posted on 05/03/2013 8:46:31 AM PDT by pinochet
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The question isn’t a matter of “if”, but “when”.


2 posted on 05/03/2013 8:47:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Yes.


3 posted on 05/03/2013 8:51:31 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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Si.


4 posted on 05/03/2013 8:51:38 AM PDT by JohnG45
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Counting on it! (Although I do not look forward to it)


5 posted on 05/03/2013 8:52:20 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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Gay marriage, 1 million abortions/year, American students falling behind Asian students, 47 million food stampers, weakening of our defenses, Muslim converts outpacing Christians, the Mexicanification of the US,....etc. Our culture is decaying at an acccelerating rate with no slowdown in sight. It’s a matter of when not, if.


6 posted on 05/03/2013 8:55:10 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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Nothing new really, complacency, idiocy, democracy.. over time they eat almost anything from the inside out.

Eat drink and be merry.. maybe somebody will put up a statue to commemorate our finest days.


7 posted on 05/03/2013 8:55:30 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Babylon fell due to an over-mighty and increasingly unaccountable State.

Rome fell due to an over-mighty and increasingly unaccountable State.

Hmm.


8 posted on 05/03/2013 8:56:38 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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America is too young a civilization, to be showing the signs of moral and cultural decadence that are associated with very old civilizations. An American Nero like Obama has arrived about 1000 years too early.

Maybe it's somehow tied to technical progress, American has seen more in it's 200+ years than the Roman empire did in a thousand years. Perhaps this has accelerated the birth and death cycle.

9 posted on 05/03/2013 8:57:13 AM PDT by apillar
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America is too young a civilization, to be showing the signs of moral and cultural decadence that are associated with very old civilizations.

Things happen much faster now due to electronic communications. Culturally destructive memes are much easier to spread.

10 posted on 05/03/2013 8:57:55 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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" What difference does it make?"


11 posted on 05/03/2013 8:58:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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you have to get your time lines straight as well. Sumer lasted a few thousand years. Babylon lasted about 2,500 years. Rome lasted ~ 1300 years ~ then the climatological event of 535AD happened ~ then it fragmented for good, and no high civilization of equal caliber happened in that vicinity until about 1500 when Michaelangelo began carving marble to the same exacting standards as the Greeks and Romans of Classical times. That's about 1000 years of 'time out'.

Throughout that period people continued to copulate and eat bad diets.

the United Staes will collapse like Rome when a big volcano or comet screws up the weather ~ but we'll be back in a decade since our technology is simply not going to need 1000 years to recover!

12 posted on 05/03/2013 8:59:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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If it does collapse it will be because of the most fundamental sin: the refusal to think. Those who demand the unjustified whether it be welfare or a job that they have not earned will destroy it. Those who hold sacrifice as a virtue and achievement as a vice are undoing it. Those who punish success and reward failures are rotting it from within. Those who act not on reason and a long range view towards the future but instead on the whim of the moment are bringing it down.


13 posted on 05/03/2013 9:00:47 AM PDT by albionin
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A Republic, if you can keep it
14 posted on 05/03/2013 9:00:48 AM PDT by tomkat
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In one word, “YES”.


16 posted on 05/03/2013 9:02:40 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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"America is too young a civilization, to be showing the signs of moral and cultural decadence that are associated with very old civilizations. An American Nero like Obama has arrived about 1000 years too early."

You can thank technology for that. I think Art Bell once wrote a book about it called "The Quickening", in which he says technology is speeding up societal evolution. One of my college profs told me about it 15 years ago...which is probably equivalent to 400-500 Roman Empire years.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

17 posted on 05/03/2013 9:02:42 AM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! www.7161.com/streamer.cfm?dt_track_id=21356)
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The Roman Republic and Empire passed through the same phase, starting as a strong pro-family civilization, and ending up as an empire of sexual orgies that had openly gay emperors like Caligula and Nero.

Uhh.

Caligula: AD 12 - 24.

Nero: AD 37 to 68.

Deposition of the last Western Roman Emperor: AD 476.

Considering C to have been a direct result of the moral degeneracy of A and B requires quite a leap.

Anywho, for it's last 150 years the Roman Empire was Christian, complete with homosexuality as a capital crime.

FWIW, the peak of the Roman and Greek civilizations happened to coincide with their periods of greatest acceptance of open homosexuality. Personally, I don't thing A caused B here, either, but it is a fact.

Also, the Eastern Roman Empire lasted another 1000 years, till 1453.

19 posted on 05/03/2013 9:03:58 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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There was posted last week an article on Huffington Post — not written by one of the token “conservatives” who post there — that delicately pointed out that many children in the USA are being raised partly or totally by their grandparents because these children’s mother are unmarried. What was stunning was that this writer edged up to asserting that it is not good for a nation when the traditional family unit falls apart. That this appeared on HuffPost tells you how obvious it is becoming that our nation is imperiled.


20 posted on 05/03/2013 9:04:13 AM PDT by utahagen
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Yes. America is in rapid decay. Moral, cultural, and economic decay. The country has become a pathetic shell of what it used to be. A pale shadow of its former greatness and exceptionalism.

If anything portends its demise more fully, it’s the combination of reaching the “takers overwhelming makers” threshold, and the cultural embrace of the abject degeneracy of things like homo marriage. Death-knells.


21 posted on 05/03/2013 9:04:52 AM PDT by greene66
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No, it will be worse than the fall of Rome. Rome didn’t have NBC weapons that will most certainly fall into the hands of those with evil on their minds and willingness to use them to further Satan’s plans.


22 posted on 05/03/2013 9:05:08 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Torpedo the Constitution and full speed ahead!!!)
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Centuries later, family bonds collapsed, and Babylon became famous for sexual orgies and gay relationships.

I have never seen any evidence to this effect, that Babylonian families deteriorated and that this caused their civilization's collapse.

My understanding of Babylonian religion is that sexual orgies including male and female temple prostitutes were prominent from the beginning.

23 posted on 05/03/2013 9:06:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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