[MrB]

Actually, I’m not proving anything. I’m just showing you the evidence you hang your hat on is nothing but vapor.
You might want to check out the strata laid down in a few weeks after the mt St. Helens eruption and also the airplanes found under ice in the arctic.
Once again, I’m not proving, I’m disproving your evidence as not indicating what you say it does.

[Okieshooter]

I’ve been lurking on the thread watching the debate between reason and emotion, but finally have to put in my two cents in. I believe that you young earthers do a huge disservice to the Christian religion when you cling to old disproven beliefs. The bible may or may not be the inspired word of God, but that is an entirely different argument. But it was written by men in the context of what made sense to them at the time.

The knowledge base of mankind has expanded exponentially since then. Don’t you think it is time you moved into the 21st century?

http://www.oldearth.org/rebuttal/other/sdc/sdc_mount_saint_helens.htm

http://www.oldearth.org/rebuttal/magazines/Creation/1997/greenlandair.htm

[BroJoeK]

MrB: "You might want to check out the strata laid down in a few weeks after the mt St. Helens eruption and also the airplanes found under ice in the arctic.

"Once again, I’m not proving, I’m disproving your evidence as not indicating what you say it does."

I've looked at both of your examples before, and they are both examples of "young earthers'" mis-interpretation and/or fraud.

In the Mount St. Helens case, Dr. Stephen Austin deliberately chose the wrong test for the material he selected, and so naturally got back inaccurate results: G.I.G.O.

Those WWII airplanes found in Greenland under 250 feet of ice (or was it 3000 meters?) are comically mis-interpreted by "young earthers".
First of all, no ice-core samples were extracted to actually count how deep those planes were buried.
But as important: glacial ice in Greenland moves, often quite rapidly, and in the process objects buried within the ice can also move -- up or down.
So those planes' found location says less about the number of years than about the ice's rate of movement, which of course nobody bothered to measure.

That's why I say: even in those "worst-case examples", it still takes willful acts of fraud and/or DeNile to make science appear to support a "young earth" hypothesis.

"Young Earth" has nothing to do with science, and everything to do with religious convictions.

DeNile River: