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Video: Did Tsarnaevs finance bomb plot with drug sales?
Hot Air ^ | 10:41 am on April 25, 2013 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 04/25/2013 8:45:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

CBS News reported last night that investigators believe that the unemployed Tamerlan Tsarnaev may have financed his terrorist plot through the sale of marijuana — an interesting occupation for a fanatical Muslim.  The composition of the bomb has come into clearer focus as well.  The triggering device came from a remote-control car, and the fed still think the gunpowder may have come from fireworks.

Most interesting, though, is the acknowledgment that the Tsarnaevs only had one firearm on them during their gunfight with police:

The search through landfills should remind us that bombers need quite a bit of practice in order to get a device that works properly. Even a trained bomber, like the Times Square terrorist, can easily screw one up. That’s one reason why Tamerlan’s six-month sojourn to Dagestan should be interesting to investigators. If Tamerlan wasn’t testing his pressure-cooker devices here, either he was extraordinarily lucky on his first try — or he got training elsewhere. There aren’t that many places in the Boston region where a bomber could test his designs without attracting a lot of notice.

Also, if Tamerlan was selling marijuana to finance his terrorist plot — or even just to make some cash — it might shed a new light on the 2011 triple homicide, whose victims included Tamerlan’s one-time best friend.  Brendan Mess sold pot, too, and homicide detectives assumed that drugs had been the cause of a dispute that got out of hand.  The New York Daily News makes the connection as well:

Friends of the ex-Golden Gloves boxer have openly speculated Tamerlan may have been involved in a grisly triple homicide two years ago involving one of his close friends. The unsolved case continues to stump investigators in the Boston suburb of Waltham, where Tsarnaev’s friend, 25-year-old Brendan Mess, was found murdered Sept. 12, 2011, in his apartment.

Mess, along with two other men, had their throats slit by either an ice pick or knife, and their bodies were covered in marijuana. The attack was made even more bizarre after police said $5,000 was left at the blood-splattered scene.

A couple of points don’t fit, though.  It was just three months later that Tamerlan left for Dagestan.  Why bail out of an operation so soon after getting rid of the competition, if indeed that’s what happened?  Why leave $5,000 behind, too, if you need financing for a terrorist plot — especially cash that couldn’t be easily traced?

The father of the two bombers will fly back to the US this week to claim the elder son’s body, according to a local CBS affiliate.  Anzor Tsarnaev also pledged to cooperate with the investigation:

The Boston Marathon bombing suspects’ father has planned to travel to the U.S. within the next two days, possibly to claim the body of Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

Anzor Tsarnaev told reporters in the Dagestan province of Russia, where he and his wife reside, he would be leaving Thursday or Friday, the Associated Press reported. The mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, reportedly has not decided if she will make the trip; she was charged with felony shoplifting in Massachusetts a year ago, before the family moved overseas.

The father said he would cooperate with the FBI in the ongoing investigation, according to CNN. Federal authorities went to Russia Wednesday for face to face interviews with the parents.

US officials offered to exempt the mother from arrest if she returned for interviews and the trial of her younger son. Zubeidat may return temporarily, but blames the US for all her misfortunes:

The mother of the two Boston bombing suspects told reporters in southern Russia on Thursday that she regretted ever moving her family to the United States, as her husband said he would travel to the U.S. later in the day to see his surviving son.

“Why did I even go there?” Zubeidat Tsarnaeva said through tears after CBS News correspondent Charlie D’Agata asked her if she regretted the move.

“America took my kids away from me,” she declared through tears, saying she wished she had remained in a village in the southern Russian region of Dagestan instead of emigrating to Boston in 2002.

Tsarnaeva was adamant that police arrested her elder son alive and that he died later in custody. Says said she saw video of him on internet, referring to an amateur video which showed a man stripped of most of his clothing being taken into custody on the day of Tamerlan’s death and Dzhokhar’s eventual arrest.

“What have you done to my son? Why did they have to kill him?” the emotional mother asked during the news conference. She was vague when asked who she believed was behind the conspiracy she claims set her kids up.

On that note, let’s give the last word to the editorial board of the Washington Post, via Instapundit, which asks whether the FBI is focused enough on the real bad guys:

LAW ENFORCEMENT agencies can’t be expected to stop every terrorist attack, any more than they can prevent every mass shooting. If, as most investigators now appear to believe, brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev acted on their own with a bomb design downloaded from the Internet, their plot posed a steep challenge to those agencies, including the FBI and Department of Homeland Security (DHS), responsible for detecting threats.

Nevertheless, there are reasons for concern about the two agencies’ performance, based on what is known so far about their tracking of Tamerlan Tsarnaev. The older and more radical brother was first identified as a possible extremist by Russia, which asked the FBI to investigate him in early 2011. Later that year, also after prompting from Russia, the CIA asked that his name be added to a watch list maintained by the National Counterterrorism Center, The Post’s Greg Miller and Sari Horowitz reported. His subsequent departure for Russia in early 2012 resulted in “a ping” to customs officials, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told Congress on Tuesday. However, it appears the FBI never learned that Tamerlan had left the country and was not informed when he returned in July. …

As we said, not every plot by terrorists can be detected. Respect for civil liberties means that not everyone who visits a jihadist Web site or is the subject of an inquiry by another government can be placed under permanent surveillance. But it’s worth asking whether the FBI’s methods for identifying and following up on threats need refinement.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bbdrugs; bbwelfare; bostonbombing; bostonjihad; bostonmarathon; cannabis; drugs; jihad; jihadinamerica; marijuana; wod
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1 posted on 04/25/2013 8:45:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well i bet i could duplicate those devices for about 500 bucks or so including backbacks


2 posted on 04/25/2013 8:47:00 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
No. He'd have to sell a lot of pot to drive around in a Mercedes.

Someone else had the big money. (See very, very wealthy Saudi suspect).

3 posted on 04/25/2013 8:48:10 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: al baby

They bought the pressure cookers at Williams-Sonoma. Gotta triple that estimate.


4 posted on 04/25/2013 8:48:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IsraelBeach; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; justa-hairyape; onyx; NormsRevenge; SunkenCiv; blam; ...
See the link to the HotAir website for the video.

Quick summary .

5 posted on 04/25/2013 8:49:39 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The mainstream media and the Democrat politicians are doing all they can to divert attention from the Islamist connections and the Progressives’ enabling of these folks. Nipping interrogation in the bud, stating that they have “privacy rights” so nobody can pursue the details (no doubt they are outrageous) of state & federal welfare and assistance.

I’m getting disgusted with the whole thing.


6 posted on 04/25/2013 8:50:26 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I posted this a week ago and forwarded to the FBI:

“My nephew is remote control hobbyist and says the battery, spark plug wires and circuit board are the complete ignitor system out of a remote-controlled, internal-combustion-engine toy car.

That would explain a remote control trigger rather than tricky and complex cell phone signals, or a hard to be precise timer. The spark plug just gets buried in black powder, push a button on the remote and kaboom. Black hat sets his off, then white hat detonates and everybody runs away.”

“20 posted on Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:10:19 PM by gandalftb”

Fascinating that it took a week to get out.


7 posted on 04/25/2013 8:51:04 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Tsarnaev brothers were on welfare, and thus US taxpayers were forced by the government to subsidize them,


8 posted on 04/25/2013 8:51:07 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

9 posted on 04/25/2013 8:51:52 AM PDT by Perseverando (The truth is hate to those who hate the truth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Not so unusual, when you consider where the word “assassin” comes from.

Of course,the Religion of Peace website says that is a myth, as does Wikipedia.

I don’t know which site I distrust more...


10 posted on 04/25/2013 8:51:59 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: concerned about politics

Obama wants this to come out as a Lone Wolf operation.


11 posted on 04/25/2013 8:55:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yeah ... they need to find some other explanation besides “funded by terrorists” for this bombing. Yeah ... they sold drugs ... thats how these two lone wolves came up with the money to pull this off.


12 posted on 04/25/2013 8:55:34 AM PDT by dartuser (My firearm is not illegal ... its undocumented.)
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To: rlmorel

The Hashashin! The Islam equivalent of the samurai and/or ninja.


13 posted on 04/25/2013 8:56:02 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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14 posted on 04/25/2013 8:56:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

At least two of the three men who had their throats slit were Jewish.

Go figure....


15 posted on 04/25/2013 9:01:50 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: All
And Hot Air reports a convient find:

Video: Investigators find cache of fireworks dumped near Boston

fireworks tossed out with their gunpowder removed:

16 posted on 04/25/2013 9:02:37 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: House Atreides

Yep, this all ties out nicely. Brothers sold illegal drugs and used the proceeds to build bombs. Thus, to eliminate bombings, we need to legalize drugs.

That’s not far from how liberals think!


17 posted on 04/25/2013 9:06:58 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: gandalftb

All of this talk about kitchen table bombs doesn’t wash.

You would have to buy a radio controlled car, for the ignition parts - $200+. Then buy a Fagor pressure cooker - $100. Then the explosives, the fireworks dealer said they paid $200, let’s say $50/bomb. Then the projectiles, say $25 a bomb.

That puts each bomb cost at around $375 each and we know they made at least 3, that’s a $1,000+.

The media interviewed Junior Gilbert that runs Junior’s Auto Repair across the street from where the Tsaraevs lived. He said they never had any money and did the autobody labor on their own cars in his lot. Then when Tamerlan showed up in a panic the day before the bombing and had to have his unfinished car, Junior notices Tamerlan has new and very expensive shoes. When asked, Tamerlan bragged that they cost $900.

All this spending and the brothers are unemployed?

One more thing, in making IED’s there is a problem called detonation stability. You have to test the IED design. It is nonsense that the wife knew nothing about a bomb-making effort that had to take several weeks minimum. You wouldn’t throw everything in the closet just before mom got home everyday. The projectiles were shaped by resin that would take hours to set up.

These IED’s, btw, are not in any jihadist cook book, not this ignition system. It requires the bomber to be present, within the range of the remote control, about 500 feet, line of sight. It was designed for crowds not for troops on patrol or vehicles.

The small size of the projectiles show an intent to wound as many as possible but have fewer killed.


18 posted on 04/25/2013 9:09:24 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wouldn’t be surprised


19 posted on 04/25/2013 9:15:41 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Why leave $5,000 behind, too, if you need financing for a terrorist plot — especially cash that couldn’t be easily traced?

Because stealing is against Islam?
20 posted on 04/25/2013 9:21:52 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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