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To: jpsb

Border jumping is ALREADY illegal. Hiring illegals is ALREADY illegal. Harboring illegals is already illegal. Offering aid and comfort to lawbreakers is already illegal. Shorting the pay of illegals is already illegal. Paying them under the table is already illegal. Failure by employers to withhold and or account for payments to illegals is already illegal. Falsifying/forging documents to obtain employment, medical care, welfare, foodstamps, bank accounts, or for any other purpose whatsoever is already illegal.

Illegals live in the shadows for good reason.

Duh, they’re here ILLEGALLY and they are knowingly committing an illegal act!! They are lawbreakers!! They’re already criminals!! ANY act of congress changing their status is AMNESTY!!

Any willful failure of FUBO or his America-hating underlings or accomplices (including Rand Paul if he goes along with this crap) to enforce the law and secure the borders especially while the nation is at war is TREASON! Look it up in the constitution.

NO amount of new laws or “reform” will improve the situation!!

It’s just like the existing laws against murder or armed robbery, etc. Thee crimes are already illegal!! NO amount of unconstitutional infringing gun laws will improve that situation!!

Just ENFORCE THE LAW!! SECURE THE BORDERS!! SECURE THE NATION!!


138 posted on 04/24/2013 6:51:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
As I have posted before, I am fine with deporting just about all the illegals here, that is my preferred solution. Ike did it, we could do it again but the political will do to that just does not exist. The Marxist media would howl 24/7 for months if not years. That sadly is the situation.

Here is my understanding of Pauls' preferred solution. He might be going wobbly, I hope not.

First we secure the border, the border must be certified secure by ICE, border patrol or some agency tasked with auditing the border. Congress then must vote (getting them on record) to either accept of reject the certification.

Second existing laws are enforced while the border is being secured. Existing laws are enforced after the border is secured.

Third illegals will be denied any federal benefits such as welfare, food stamps, etc.

Five years after the border is secured the remaining illegals will be allowed to applied for a work visa. There is be no new pathway to citizenship.

The only amnesty in Pauls outline of a plan is that illegals that get a work visa will not be required to return to their home country in order to apply for citizenship.

If I understand Pauls "plan" correctly it is probably the best we could hope for given a Marxist media and a powerful Marxist Democratic party that encourages illegal immigration. In fact I am certain that the Marxists in Congress would never allow Pauls plan to see the Senate floor.

I am on your side on this issue, and maybe I am wrong but I think Paul is on your side too. I hope and pray he is, because if the plan in the Senate right now passes Texas will turn blue in not to many years. Given a blue Texas the GOP is finished as a national political party. I think Paul (and Cruz) both know that. I am very disappointed in Rubio, I had high hopes for him but he has turned out to be a GOPe stooge. Like all of us I am keeping a close eye on Paul, if Paul folds the game is over so rather then bash him I'm supporting him since I believe he will not support the gang of 8 bill.

(I am furious at both Bush1, Clinton and Bush2 for their failure as presidents to secure the border and enforce our immigration laws.)

144 posted on 04/25/2013 6:52:13 AM PDT by jpsb
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