Posted on 04/21/2013 4:40:36 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
Bothers the hell out of me, but apparently it didn't bother the sheep who live in Boston. I saw the loud baaing when they caught the guy. Are the people there really that brainwashed? Or is it just the MSM is supressing anything that shows the government in an unfavorable light? The best part of all of this is that the Boston brown shirts DIDN'T cath the bomber with their gestapo tactics.
You've probably already seen this I find this extremely disturbing. I kept thinking "Juden die Hand heben und herauskommen, nehmen wir Sie in ein Arbeitslager"
Yep, I saw it. There is even a few second clip of that house search on the USSA video, just added last night.
As I look at the link in post 61, I can’t help thinking if there had been cell phone videos during the supression of the Warsaw ghetto what those videos would have looked like. I imagine somehting like this.
I was listening to a scanner throughout. The “final firefight” involved shooting blanks, not live rounds, at the boat, so no holes. They used “gas”, unspecified, but no flash-bang. The previous firefight was on the streets and did involve live rounds and homemade bombs being tossed around.
They did not know that the kid was too wounded to even move much, let alone shoot back.
Do you have specific cases where firearms were taken?
Oh and for all of the cop worshipers on FR I hope they like what they saw.
Did the police ask people for permission to search or did they say we’re coming in?
The police show up at Bogart's door very late at night. They have questions. He keeps them out in the hallway, where they don't want to talk. They want to come in. Bogart shakes his head. They can't come in. They ask him to be reasonable. He says they need a warrant. They turn to go.
And then, from inside Bogart's apartment, a woman screams "Help! Help!"
The lead cop looks at Bogart and says, "I guess we're coming in."
Bogart steps aside and says, "I guess you are."
Once upon a time, everyone knew the rules. Today, the government does what it wants.
1. Should not have requested the people to shelter in place.
2. Should not have gone door to door contacting the citizens.
Letting tens of thousands of people roam around the area of the search would have made it harder still to find Joker and needlessly put those people at heightened risk of injury or death. And not going house to house would be a gift to a fugitive on the loose. He merely has to enter a house and tie up the occupants until the police leave.
As best as I can tell, had the police done as some of the posters suggested, Joker would have gotten away. The boat owner, not wanting to "shelter in place" could just have likely left the area and would not have checked the back yard.
I do support the police if they ask people to stay inside when someone like this is on the loose. Frankly, it is something I would do anyway. And I support the police going house to house to contact the citizens. There is nothing unconstitutional about that. Absent exigent circumstances, I do not support having the police enter the houses without their permission.
If people hadn’t been told to stay inside, the punk would have been found many hours earlier and Boston wouldn’t have lost however many millions in productive work and the taxpayers would have save a day of excess spending on all the extra security. It may be hindsight but that’s what it came down to.
Oh that’s just... just... wrong.
You are far afield from the question I asked about this particular circumstances.
If officers entered homes without permission or a warrant, or exigent circumstances, then yes they did violate the 4th. It is now up to those homeowners to pursue a legal remedy.
Doing everything differently literally means not even being on the scene searching for Joker. No search, no Joker.
He was outside the perimeter the whole time. The boat owner's house was near but still outside the search area.
Answer me this did they have warrants? And what kind of judge would give warrants to search a house merely because it’s in the neighborhood that the criminal was last seen in?
Face it you are more than willing to give up Freedom for security and even though I am sure you know where that leads.
The watch list would have been reasonable. But, that was out of the hands of the police on the scene in the search for Joker.
“To some of the posters here, just going door to door and asking the citizens if they were ok violated their 4th Amendment rights”
Nonsense, nobody has said that.
What they have said is restricting peoples right to move freely was not only ineffective but was unconstitutional.
Going house to house and SEARCHING the homes was also unconstitutional.
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